Originally posted by buffalobillWhy bother arguing with military geniuses like you and KnightWulfe who's knowledge of strategy dwarfs Napoleon's? You've shown an utter unwillingness to listen to anything said or to support your assertions with any evidence at all. Your knowledge of history is atonishingly poor.
Wingnut is right. What thread should this go into? Shall we start a new one?
But, and not a good analogy, should Norway declare war on you and assuming you have passage rights would Venice march a +2000 CP army there, oh great tactician? Knowing you have enemies scheming behind your back?
Anyway, start a new thread, this is fun.
Originally posted by no1marauderYes, why bother talking to someone who happens to be leading in the game despite being a commoner? And since when did this discussion become an argument? Also, since when did Knightwulfe get involved in Napoleon's Russian campaigns? Finally, why have you suddenly shifted this debate to something personal? Stick to the subject. I have nothing personal with you.
Why bother arguing with military geniuses like you and KnightWulfe who's knowledge of strategy dwarfs Napoleon's? You've shown an utter unwillingness to listen to anything said or to support your assertions with any evidence at all. Your knowledge of history is atonishingly poor.
PS. I also happen to have a history degree. This in itself doesn't make me an expert, but does give me some perspective, and a willingness to learn.
Originally posted by buffalobillKW was the first one to mention the Russian Campaign, sport. And leading in this game doesn't make you a military expert. And neither does a history degree.
Yes, why bother talking to someone who happens to be leading in the game despite being a commoner? And since when did this discussion become an argument? Also, since when did Knightwulfe get involved in Napoleon's Russian campaigns? Finally, why have you suddenly shifted this debate to something personal? Stick to the subject. I have nothing personal wit ...[text shortened]... self doesn't make me an expert, but does give me some perspective, and a willingness to learn.
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Originally posted by no1marauderNo, but who made you the expert?
KW was the first one to mention the Russian Campaign, sport. And leading in this game doesn't make you a military expert. And neither does a history degree.
EDIT: Back to the Russian declaration of war, Would you have marched? Or sat back? Either/or. Can you defend Napoleon's decision (in hindsight)?
Originally posted by buffalobillI wrote a long answer in response, but unfortunately as described in the "Computer Problems" thread, it won't post. I don't care if you think I'm an "expert" or not, but I've spent a lot of my life studying military history. Napoleon was trying to control all of Europe and had restive states like Prussia and Austria under his heel; no, he couldn't just pretend Russia didn't exist. That's inane.
No, but who made you the expert?
EDIT: Back to the Russian declaration of war, Would you have marched? Or sat back? Either/or. Can you defend Napoleon's decision (in hindsight)?
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Originally posted by catfoodtimSorry, but you reneged on the agreement, the third one you have violated. You were supposed to offer peace two turns ago while I evacuated Rhaetia and then Saluzzo the next. I withdrew but you didn't offer peace and begin blustering about the allies that were coming to aid you in your war. Apparently after seeing that Italy had formed a military alliance you then decided it would be a good idea to change your mind and go back to the peace deal. By then it was too late; I had warned you if you broke one more agreement I would see to it that Arles was broken. Unlike you, I kept my word.
Well, after getting up from my sick bed and surveying the burning rubble it appears the following happened to the lowly Arletian people:
Venice reneged on an agreement by sinking the Arletian 'fleet' and, with his monkey tow, blustered into Saluzzo, burning and pillaging no doubt.
Sicily reneged on a long standing alliance, presumably after whispe ...[text shortened]... y to you lads.
So: any advice for lowly people of Arles? Apart from a new leader, I mean.
EDIT: From the Turn 6 turnfile: Thou didst offer peace to the Kingdom of Arles, but they foolishly refused the offer.
From the popcorn gallery: no-one has yet mentioned that Hungary and the Golden Horde are making very interesting (and slightly scary) neighbours.
Maybe it's just the yellow/purple colour combination, but the size of those two realms and the fact they share two fronts kind of leapt out at me from the map. Surely they have to figure rather prominently in each other's calculations?
Meanwhile, the part of the map that corresponds to modern France is a fractured jumble. I'll be keen to see who starts cleaning the mess up.
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Originally posted by catfoodtimYOU VIOLATED THE TREATY ON TURN 6 by refusing the peace offer! It is impossible for both realms to refuse a peace offer. Therefore, your peace offer on turn 7 turnfile meant nothing. My retreat from Saluzzo on turn 7 was a strategic decision and not part of a treaty that was defunct because you broke it. If you're going to lie, Mad King, at least do it more convincingly.
Honestly, I'm inclined to cede you Savoy just for having the gall...funnily enough, my offer for peace to Venice in Turn 6 was foolishly refused too.
The only blustering done is by you in this forum.
Where was the gold promised by you on your hasty retreat from Saluzzo?
Probably kept next to that non-existant peace treaty.
Tell you what, keep it for that drink in the Savoy 🙂
Originally posted by orfeoYes, they are obviously allied. The colours are a little confusing but Byzantium is now restricted to a single city state. It is also controlled by a robot which will make no efforts but to defend itself. Same with France. Both have massive armies but will do nothing. This leads to power vacuums that others have to fill.
From the popcorn gallery: no-one has yet mentioned that Hungary and the Golden Horde are making very interesting (and slightly scary) neighbours.
Maybe it's just the yellow/purple colour combination, but the size of those two realms and the fact they share two fronts kind of leapt out at me from the map. Surely they have to figure rather prominently in eac ...[text shortened]... to modern France is a fractured jumble. I'll be keen to see who starts cleaning the mess up.
The human leaders who seem to have the biggest headaches are the Hafsids and Alres.
Originally posted by no1marauderYou told me you were going to sneak attack Alres and try to pass it off as a mistake!
YOU VIOLATED THE TREATY ON TURN 6 by refusing the peace offer! It is impossible for both realms to refuse a peace offer. Therefore, your peace offer on turn 7 turnfile meant nothing. My retreat from Saluzzo on turn 7 was a strategic decision and not part of a treaty that was defunct because you broke it. If you're going to lie, Mad King, at least do it more convincingly.
Look at no1Hussein spin!