Originally posted by eagles54And he keeps insisting that I engaged in "creative misuse" of the quotes. He was implying that I was the liar, rather than him. Well, everybody can read it if they want; is there any "creative misuse"? He needs the Reading Comprehension course.
You should really apply at your local community college for a "Reading For Comprehesion" course, Doge.
The Duke has already read as much.
Buttercup. 😉
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Originally posted by no1marauderWell, from an objective standpoint...
OK.
King of Norway:
Doge of Venice,
I should have heeded your advice many seasons ago, but my loyalty blinded me to Radolph's deceipt [sic] far longer than a wise commander would have allowed.
AND
For the record, Doge, I did not turn on Saxony last turn; I again had trusted him to hold to his part of the bargain in assailing Denma ...[text shortened]... l still sleep undisturbed.
What "outright liars" do you think he was referring to??
you said "Four diplomatic messages. He used terms like "Radolph's deceit" and described you as an "outright liar". How many times has he chatted with you?"
But in his message to you he only says " If my realm is destroyed by those who are outright liars, I shall still sleep undisturbed."
So technically, he never refered to Saxony and a liar. you just assumed he meant Saxony. Hence the "creative misuse."
Originally posted by KnightWulfeYou are kidding?
Well, from an objective standpoint...
you said "Four diplomatic messages. He used terms like "Radolph's deceit" and [b]described you as an "outright liar". How many times has he chatted with you?"
But in his message to you he only says " If my realm is destroyed by those who are outright liars, I shall still sleep undisturbed."
So technicall ...[text shortened]... to Saxony and a liar. you just assumed he meant Saxony. Hence the "creative misuse."[/b]
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Originally posted by buffalobillI said "he described you as an outright liar". He did; the phrase could only have been referring to you given that he was talking about "trusting" you. Any other interpretation is a creative (or uncreative) misuse".
Well, are these direct quotes or not? Based on what I have in front of me? Are these relevant given the apology?
So he said you were a deceitful liar. Deal with it.
EDIT: I again had trusted him to hold to his part of the bargain in assailing Denmark. It is my natural disposition to take a man at his word. My sense of honor has taken its toll on my forces but so be it. If my realm is destroyed by those who are outright liars,
Originally posted by KnightWulfeThen you're an idiot. Note I said that the King of Norway "described" the Saxon as an "outright liar". Nothing "creative" and certainly no "misuse".
No.
Certainly if I read it a particular way, I can see a possible insinuation...but there is no direct statement refering to Saxony or BB or Duke Randolph as a liar.
So I still say "creative misuse" is accurate.
Originally posted by no1marauderYou're losing this debate hands down, given his subsequent apology.Why do you insist on trying to push the river? If you've got a problem, take it up with my so-called accuser. I'm satisfied.
I said "he described you as an outright liar". He did; the phrase could only have been referring to you given that he was talking about "trusting" you. Any other interpretation is a creative (or uncreative) misuse".
So he said you were a deceitful liar. Deal with it.
EDIT: I again had trusted him to hold to his part of the bargain in assai ...[text shortened]... on my forces but so be it. If my realm is destroyed by those who are [b]outright liars,[/b]
Originally posted by NordlysIt matters to me when I get accused of deliberately creating a false impression by "creative misuse" of quotes. Since I clearly did not do that, the Saxon should have simply retracted his untruthful assertion.
Hmmm, objective?
I really don't see how Norway's message could be interpreted in any other way. Not that it really matters as he has taken it back.
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Originally posted by buffalobillHis subsequent apology has no bearing on your untruthful charge that I had engaged in "creative misuse" of the quotes. Except that if he wasn't saying you were a deceitful, outright liar, why did he apologize???
You're losing this debate hands down, given his subsequent apology.Why do you insist on trying to push the river? If you've got a problem, take it up with my so-called accuser. I'm satisfied.