Originally posted by RagnorakThat's been my debate, too. I wonder how things would change if I only submit one shot vs. three. I think "It'd be fun to win.", but then I think "Nah, I'd like to shoot more and share more.", but then I think "It'd be fun to win." but... You get the idea. I like that suggestion--even if it only serves the purpose of encouraging people submitting three shots.
For a little addition, why don't we total the 3 votes for the individual photos and have a "Photographer of the Round" as well as the "Photograph of the Round" as well as the individual colours of the round...
Its been in the back of my head that entrants who only submit 1 photo get rewarded over those who submit 3, so with the Photographer of the Round, then its an incentive to enter 3 photos rather than 1.
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And, I don't understand how you totaled your points, Rag? What's your system?
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Originally posted by pinkthunderThe only time I really thought about it, was for the chess round, as I knew my photos were very similar. In the end, I decided I'd prefer to get feedback on more of my photos than getting the win.
That's been my debate, too. I wonder how things would change if I only submit one shot vs. three. I think "It'd be fun to win.", but then I think "Nah, I'd like to shoot more and share more.", but then I think "It'd be fun to win." but... You get the idea. I like that suggestion--even if it only serves the purpose of encouraging people submitting three s ...[text shortened]... ts.
And, I don't understand how you totaled your points, Rag? What's your system?
Here's the Manmade Round Totaled in order of Photograph, and also a table for Photographer. Well done again Nordlys, and well done DdV. 😀
Rank Name Photographer Points
1 24. Music for the Eye: Nordlys 99
2 04. Wideangle: DdV 72
3 05. dolmen: DdV 62
4 17. Reaching Out: Nicolais 54
5 34. The After World: Evolutionary 52
6 06. organic: DdV 45
7 10. Shame about the Thumbprint: rhb 41
8 35. Lincoln Memorial: ictoan 35
9 15. Eternity: The Plumber 33
10 28. Selfridges: kyngj 30
11 20. War Culture: Tirau Dan 29
12 23. Drying Fish: Nordlys 18
13 19. Abandoned: BuffaloBill 14
14 30. Shroud: Ragnorak 14
15 33. Man and Nature Collide: Ragnorak 14
16 21. Traction Engine: Tirau Dan 10
17 26. Amalgamated: ictoan 10
18 25. Temppeliaukio Church, Helsinki: Nordlys 9
19 27. Cog Steamer: kyngj 9
20 08. Transformer: dweezil 7
21 07. Skyway: dweezil 6
22 22. Power: Tirau Dan 6
23 02. Gone Fishing: Paulie 5
24 16. Train Flagstaff: Phil Nutley 5
25 32. Sydney: Evolutionary 4
26 12. Gateway: The Plumber 3
27 14. Leaning Tower: Phil Nutley 3
28 18. Conductor: Nicolais 3
29 31. Genocide: Ragnorak 3
30 01. Stone Henge: Paulie 1
31 13. Florence: Phil Nutley 1
32 03. The Heavenly Taste Test: Darvlay 0
33 09. Brewery: dweezil 0
34 11. Touting for Business: rhb 0
35 29. Baker Library: kyngj 0
RankNamePoints
1DdV179
2Nordlys126
3Nicolais57
4Evolutionary56
5ictoan45
6Tirau Dan45
7rhb41
8kyngj39
9The Plumber36
10Ragnorak31
11BuffaloBill14
12dweezil13
13Phil Nutley9
14Paulie6
15Darvlay0
And these were the photos... http://cards.webshots.com/invite/pickup/111028337SMTI/album/396960767fzGeVj
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Originally posted by pinkthunderHow do you mean?
And, I don't understand how you totaled your points, Rag? What's your system?
It goes by this table,
1st - 10 pts -
2nd - 8 pts -
3rd - 6 pts -
4th - 5 pts -
5th - 4 pts -
6th - 3 pts -
7th - 2 pts -
8th - 1 pt -
and then the points go into a spreadsheet. Photographers/Photos on the left. Voters across the top. Its not very efficient,. I dunno if Noodles has optimised it in any way.
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Originally posted by RagnorakThat sounds like a good idea in principle. I see only one problem with it - I try to balance the list so that we don't get several nature rounds in a row etc., and with a voting system, this wouldn't be guaranteed. But quite likely, it would turn out balanced enough to go with it, and if not, we could still make some changes.
I'd really like to see some of the other rounds sooner, and I've just had a brainwave. Why not ask Russ to set up a vote for us to decide the choice and order of the new rounds? We could set it up so that everybody voted for their favourite 7 rounds. Then order the top 7 according to number of votes received, and then we can set up a new vote to chose th ...[text shortened]... . If we only advertise it in here, then we should have mostly interested parties voting.
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Originally posted by RagnorakSure, why not? I'll go right back to the "Still Life" round and apply it there. 🙂
In fact, now that I type it, why don't we do that for every round? For example, I get 5, 5 and 8 points for my three photos, that means I get 18 points in the Photographer of the Round table.
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Originally posted by RagnorakUmm...uhh...look over there --->
How do you mean?
It goes by this table,
1st - 10 pts -
2nd - 8 pts -
3rd - 6 pts -
4th - 5 pts -
5th - 4 pts -
6th - 3 pts -
7th - 2 pts -
8th - 1 pt -
and then the points go into a spreadsheet. Photographers/Photos on the left. Voters across the top. Its not very efficient,. I dunno if Noodles has optimised it in any way.
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Um. Yeah. I don't know what I was thinking...maybe I wasn't.😀
Originally posted by RagnorakWhat a fantastic idea! 😉
Here's the Manmade Round Totaled in order of Photograph, and also a table for Photographer. Well done again Nordlys, and well done DdV. 😀
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I really like all the ideas suggested thus far. A photographer of the round will add something extra to the competition and will stimulate sending in three entries. We could even calculate this across several rounds, and see who gets most votes overall.
The three in one round with the colours makes for something completely different again. I also thought of the similarity of the extended exposure and moving rounds, so I wouldn't having 'moving' pushed back. And since it wouldn't slow us down, it would be great to be able to vote for the upcoming rounds. The only thing I wonder about is whether we'll have enough people voting to get seven clear winners out of a list. If there are too many topics, or too few voters, we might end up with a lot of ties, I think.
David
Originally posted by DdVWe could even calculate this across several rounds, and see who gets most votes overall.
We could even calculate this across several rounds, and see who gets most votes overall.
The three in one round with the colours makes for something completely different again. I also thought of the similarity of the extended exposure and moving rounds, so I wouldn't having 'moving' pushed back. And since it wouldn't slow us down, it would be great to be able ...[text shortened]... e too many topics, or too few voters, we might end up with a lot of ties, I think.
David
Good idea. Give us a few days.
Good point about the ties as well. I'll have to ponder that one, as I was kind of thinking that putting in loads and loads of options was the way to go. That would be impossible taken your point into account. Maybe we could have a vote per certain categories...Nature: (animals, mountains, lakes, waterfalls, etc.), abstract: (colours, etc), etc.
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Originally posted by RagnorakThat sounds like a good idea - that would also solve the problem that the list might be unbalanced, if I understand your idea correctly. I understand it this way: We'd make a list of superordinate categories, and every superordinate category would occur once (possibly more than once if it's a very big category) in a batch of rounds. Then people would vote for their favourite subcategories for each superordinate category. Is that what you mean?
Good point about the ties as well. I'll have to ponder that one, as I was kind of thinking that putting in loads and loads of options was the way to go. That would be impossible taken your point into account. Maybe we could have a vote per certain categories...Nature: (animals, mountains, lakes, waterfalls, etc.), abstract: (colours, etc), etc.
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Originally posted by NordlysAnd it would be a solution to Peachy's concern about having too much arty rounds, if you'd make a frivolous supercatergory.
That sounds like a good idea - that would also solve the problem that the list might be unbalanced, if I understand your idea correctly. I understand it this way: We'd make a list of superordinate categories, and every superordinate category would occur once (possibly more than once if it's a very big category) in a batch of rounds. Then people would vote for their favourite subcategories for each superordinate category. Is that what you mean?
*edit* I do hope that the extra competitions don't put too much emphasis on the points, but I doubt that will happen.
Originally posted by NordlysYup, that's the one.
That sounds like a good idea - that would also solve the problem that the list might be unbalanced, if I understand your idea correctly. I understand it this way: We'd make a list of superordinate categories, and every superordinate category would occur once (possibly more than once if it's a very big category) in a batch of rounds. Then people would vote for their favourite subcategories for each superordinate category. Is that what you mean?
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Originally posted by RagnorakEven though I included colours in my example above, I think that colours should be excluded from the vote, and be our first new round seeing as its a new and interesting round.
Maybe we could have a vote per certain categories...Nature: (animals, mountains, lakes, waterfalls, etc.), abstract: (colours, etc), etc.
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