The use of proper English is important. If someone says, “Me and him played chess,” then technically if not literally, I don’t know what he means, and further conversation is very difficult. Intelligent arguments become impossible. If one cannot express a thought with proper English, then one cannot express a thought.
Although I am not a lawyer, I have actually seen court orders with bad grammar. This causes enormous confusion and costs a lot of money. (Well, maybe that’s deliberate, because it creates opportunities for the lawyers to increase their incomes.)
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornCareful, my friend - this phrasing is far too literate for this forum 🙄
The use of proper English is important. If someone says, “Me and him played chess,” then technically if not literally, I don’t know what he means, and further conversation is very difficult. Intelligent arguments become impossible. If one cannot express a thought with proper English, then one cannot express a thought.
Although I am not a lawyer, I hav ...[text shortened]... that’s deliberate, because it creates opportunities for the lawyers to increase their incomes.)
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornI guess you never feel the need to communicate with the people on this planet who's native language is not English. Too bad, that is the vast majority of the world's population with whom you cannot have a meaningful conversation. That means war, my friend!
If one cannot express a thought with proper English, then one cannot express a thought.
Originally posted by Evil Pawn 666No, but I've lived a lot of places and around people from even more places, so my English includes things like three different words for the large piece of furniture you sit on in the living room, a variety of words for that room itself, etc. I feel like I'm multilingual within the English language!
Pawnhandler, as one who grew up using the colloquialism you'ns, my detective instincts tell me you are from Western Pennsylvania. Correct me if I am wrong.
Originally posted by Mephisto2I was addressing that only to English speaking people. I thought this was obvious since the vast majority of these conversations are in English. Of course, we must communicate with other people who's native language is not English, but I feel that those whose mother tongue is English have a responsibility to use it correctly.
I guess you never feel the need to communicate with the people on this planet who's native language is not English. Too bad, that is the vast majority of the world's population with whom you cannot have a meaningful conversation. That means war, my friend!
Originally posted by Mephisto2"who's native language . . ." is not a correct phrase. It should be "whose native language."
I guess you never feel the need to communicate with the people on this planet who's native language is not English. Too bad, that is the vast majority of the world's population with whom you cannot have a meaningful conversation. That means war, my friend!
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornWell i think you would understand if a person said "me and him played chess" perhaps the person would not be a native speaker but not at the PROPER level for the Grammar freaks. So, I think you would understand him and not flay him for a gaffe in your so Special ENGLISH. Plus English in court and on the street is a different cup of tea.
The use of proper English is important. If someone says, “Me and him played chess,” then technically if not literally, I don’t know what he means, and further conversation is very difficult. Intelligent arguments become impossible. If one cannot express a thought with proper English, then one cannot express a thought.
Although I am not a lawyer, I hav ...[text shortened]... that’s deliberate, because it creates opportunities for the lawyers to increase their incomes.)
Originally posted by mochironAgain, I'm speaking only of those for whom English is their mother tongue. It has been my experience that those who are learning English as a second, third, or fourth language use much better grammar than many of those who speak only English and have never learned proper grammar, sentence structure, or even the definition of words. The latter use English carelessly and inaccurately, thus causing confusion, whereas the former make a strong effort to use the language correctly, and it's therefore a pleasure to talk to them.
Well i think you would understand if a person said "me and him played chess" perhaps the person would not be a native speaker but not at the PROPER level for the Grammar freaks. So, I think you would understand him and not flay him for a gaffe in your so Special ENGLISH. Plus English in court and on the street is a different cup of tea.
(Our previous Prime Minister here in Canada mangled words and phrases in both our official languages. It was embarrassing.)