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21 Nov 19
@very-rusty saidThat's true - either, or, or both. Who knows what background people have here.
Really....ARe you saying you and goad were patients?
You don't have any idea what it is like unless you've actually worked with someone who has the issues being discussed, or actually were a patient!
-VR
@torunn saidSo there you go, so you don't really know much about it....Have you ever talked with someone who has the issues?..... I have and they feel like the are being baby sat...those were the persons words. Didn't like it one bit.
I have seen and read enough about similar situations, and I am just grateful I don't have those issues.
I am thinking the guy's meds isn't quite right for him to be feeling like that....The good part is he isn't violent, or I should say I haven't seen him violent yet, and if he ever does get violent. I am getting the hell out of his way.
I wonder what if someday he decides he isn't going to take the meds? I am telling you he is a guiet gentle big guy but I think what is keeping him under control is the meds. I think it saves the hospital having to look after him, and costs them less. That is my opinion, which I am certainly entitled to as much as you or goad or anyone else is to their opinion.
I was happy for the person they had a job even for a couple hours at a hospital, as they were so proud of it.
-VR
26 Nov 19
@very-rusty saidI think I know what I need to know to feel empathy. I haven't met anyone who would consider it babysitting, just necessary help.
So there you go, so you don't really know much about it....Have you ever talked with someone who has the issues?..... I have and they feel like the are being baby sat...those were the persons words. Didn't like it one bit.
I am thinking the guy's meds isn't quite right for him to be feeling like that....The good part is he isn't violent, or I should say I haven't seen ...[text shortened]... the person they had a job even for a couple hours at a hospital, as they were so proud of it.
-VR
@torunn saidThen you haven't thought of the patient and how the patient feels about it torunn....Perhaps give that a little thought!!!
I think I know what I need to know to feel empathy. I haven't met anyone who would consider it babysitting, just necessary help.
I can't tell you it is the same for all patients just the one I've talked to....I do plan on finding out more about it from the patients themselves. Also the people who actually spend some time with them.
-VR
26 Nov 19
@very-rusty said"Then you haven't thought of the patient and how the patient feels about it torunn....Perhaps give that a little thought!!!"
Then you haven't thought of the patient and how the patient feels about it torunn....Perhaps give that a little thought!!!
I can't tell you it is the same for all patients just the one I've talked to....I do plan on finding out more about it from the patients themselves. Also the people who actually spend some time with them.
-VR
That's what empathy is about, VR.
26 Nov 19
@torunn saidI applaud you for trying, but you can't reason with some people.
I think I know what I need to know to feel empathy. I haven't met anyone who would consider it babysitting, just necessary help.
Worth noting that I have worked with thousands of clients over the last 20 years and never heard a single one say they felt babysat by mental health services. Not one.
26 Nov 19
@very-rusty saidAre you going to ask them for information you have no right to?
Then you haven't thought of the patient and how the patient feels about it torunn....Perhaps give that a little thought!!!
I can't tell you it is the same for all patients just the one I've talked to....I do plan on finding out more about it from the patients themselves. Also the people who actually spend some time with them.
-VR
Are you going to pry into their personal business, too?
@suzianne saidWhat I do in my private public life is none of your business Suzie Q!!!
Are you going to ask them for information you have no right to?
Are you going to pry into their personal business, too?
I'd like to get more input on the story from both sides which I eventually will.
I may or may not share with the rest of you, depending on my mood! 😛 😉
-VR
26 Nov 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI guess, your word is your proof on that Eh goad? 😛 🙂
I applaud you for trying, but you can't reason with some people.
Worth noting that I have worked with thousands of clients over the last 20 years and never heard a single one say they felt babysat by mental health services. Not one.
-VR
26 Nov 19
@very-rusty saidTell us more sir of your good friend the politician who will be the next PM of Canada.
I guess, your word is your proof on that Eh goad? 😛 🙂
-VR
It was soooo convincing.
26 Nov 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidDid I say he was a good friend? Show me where I said he was a good friend!! 😛
Tell us more sir of your good friend the politician who will be the next PM of Canada.
It was soooo convincing.
Besides you are not remotely interested!
-VR