Originally posted by StarrmanI apologize if you inferred that from what I wrote, I never meant to imply that.
What did I say about writing what you really mean earlier?
Originally posted by Red Night
[b]For instance, I read something about the burning of 13 black children in England and the crowd chanting "N**** burn better than petrol."
That reads to me as the crowd were responsible for the burning, or witnessed it and chanted while they watched. No mention of football, houses or arson.[/b]
Did you read the rest of the article?
Or is your strategy to create a misunderstanding within the body of my post, attack that misunderstanding, and conveniently ignore the substance?
Originally posted by Red NightI couldn't care less about your views on football hooligans. That was never the subject here until you bought it up. If you want to discuss that, take it to debates and start a new thread.
I apologize if you inferred that from what I wrote, I never meant to imply that.
Did you read the rest of the article?
Or is your strategy to create a misunderstanding within the body of my post, attack that misunderstanding, and conveniently ignore the substance?
This is about your incorrect assumptions on posters like Xanthos and Nordlys, your inability to understand humour and your accusations that racism seems to be endemic in the forums. So yes, I will happily create a misunderstanding within the body of your post, attack that misunderstanding and show that your position against the so-called racists is poorly supported, poorly concieved and unnecessarily presented.
Originally posted by rbmorrisI agree. That went too far.
Dude, that's just wrong. 😞
Things tend to get out of hand on the forums and that was an example.
A lot of us are pretty upset with the things that other people say and defend on the forums. Sometimes, we over react. This was one of those times.
For what it's worth people often over react on the other side as well.
I've been called some pretty nasty and offensive names myself.
Counselor, I may agree or not with you (and we have laughed well some times) but I like you more than the antisemite abused NZ child and I feel I must warn you that the flock of wolves of the Cosa Nostra is charging against you... the tribal reaction in block from the foundations of the site itself. Ease up. Change thread. As a friend and colleague I tell you.
Originally posted by StarrmanI can't help but wonder if the IQ you are always trying to pretend you are excelling in is all in your head. You will never be as good as Hendrix.
I wonder whether people who cannot assume humour and irony into their everyday lives and still carry out perfectly reasoned acts in opposition to such subjects, have lower than average IQs.
Originally posted by RookRAKLet's assume you are right (I have no reason to doubt). Now, explain to me (you or anybody else) how this reaction against the use of the N-word can be used to prove maturity in dealing with racism? In my book, most taboos'(on words or behaviours) are rather an indication of the lack of maturity concerning that matter. Remember prohibition, just to give one example.
It pains me - more than a dozen trips to the dentist - to say this, but Red Night is right on this.
Non-black Americans, by and large, never use the N-word. It would get you immediately suspended from your school, possibly fired from your job (or sent to some sensitivity training). Never would it be shouted in a ballpark.
Originally posted by Mephisto2Good point.
Let's assume you are right (I have no reason to doubt). Now, explain to me (you or anybody else) how this reaction against the use of the N-word can be used to prove maturity in dealing with racism? In my book, most taboos'(on words or behaviours) are rather an indication of the lack of maturity concerning that matter. Remember prohibition, just to give one example.
Originally posted by Mephisto2Have you ever used the word in front of the brothers? Bring a helmet, or a vest.
Let's assume you are right (I have no reason to doubt). Now, explain to me (you or anybody else) how this reaction against the use of the N-word can be used to prove maturity in dealing with racism? In my book, most taboos'(on words or behaviours) are rather an indication of the lack of maturity concerning that matter. Remember prohibition, just to give one example.
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Originally posted by Mephisto2You've got the wrong guy.
Let's assume you are right (I have no reason to doubt). Now, explain to me (you or anybody else) how this reaction against the use of the N-word can be used to prove maturity in dealing with racism? In my book, most taboos'(on words or behaviours) are rather an indication of the lack of maturity concerning that matter. Remember prohibition, just to give one example.
I was not trying to defend any conclusion about maturity or racism. I have opinions but have not had time to actually join the debate.
My only point was to agree with Red Night, that in the current American culture of ultra-political-correctness, nobody is a public setting would dare use the N-word. When I was growing up in the sixites yes, but never today. I don't believe I have *ever* heard the world publicly spoken in 20 years aside from TV comedians.
You will have to draw your own conclusions about what that means.
Originally posted by Mephisto2I actually think the original point was that football crowds in Europe exhibited more racism than the crowds at US sporting events.
Let's assume you are right (I have no reason to doubt). Now, explain to me (you or anybody else) how this reaction against the use of the N-word can be used to prove maturity in dealing with racism? In my book, most taboos'(on words or behaviours) are rather an indication of the lack of maturity concerning that matter. Remember prohibition, just to give one example.
Well that was a later point, the original point was that racism and bigotry on the forums was wrong.