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Originally posted by Mephisto2I actually hurt a guy's feelings I was with using the word when we were all hanging out making up raps. I rhymed with trigger, and the fun ended. I guess we were good enough friends for me not to get socked in the mouth, but he didn't like it at all.
I have (jokingly), but in my environment, not yours.
Also, I had a friend get in my car one time and say... "What's up, gars?"
I said, "What?"
He said, "Garfield the cat, like you guys are all cool cats."
I didn't think anything about it, but once we dropped my black friend off he explained how he meant gars as in N-gars... and didn't realize my buddy was in the car when he said it.
It's a bad habit to use the word where I am.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitDid you rhyme it with trigger or triggah? There's a difference you know.
I actually hurt a guy's feelings I was with using the word when we were all hanging out making up raps. I rhymed with trigger, and the fun ended. I guess we were good enough friends for me not to get socked in the mouth, but he didn't like it at all.
Originally posted by Red NightRacism is wrong, period, also in a chess forum, and that is not worth a reaction. But suggesting that a country is more advanced in dealing with these matters than others by referrring to how strongly the use of a word is reacted to, is what I was reacting on. My reaction will be gladly withdrawn if the reason is too.
I actually think the original point was that football crowds in Europe exhibited more racism than the crowds at US sporting events.
Well that was a later point, the original point was that racism and bigotry on the forums was wrong.
Originally posted by RookRAKPoint taken (I did ask you, or anybody else, didn't I).
You've got the wrong guy.
I was not trying to defend any conclusion about maturity or racism. I have opinions but have not had time to actually join the debate.
My only point was to agree with Red Night, that in the current American culture of ultra-political-correctness, nobody is a public setting would dare use the N-word. When I was growing up in t ...[text shortened]... aside from TV comedians.
You will have to draw your own conclusions about what that means.
Originally posted by Mephisto2Yes, to that statement. The statement about racism at football matches was fairly recent. The first 25 pages of this thread deal with the primary question of racism on the forum.
No, not to "that" statement. Don't be misleading.
Go ahead and read it if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by Mephisto2Back on page 25, I made the following statement:
No, not to "that" statement. Don't be misleading.
However; if what I'm seeing on the forums and in the news is any indication, perhaps other countries are now beginning to go through some of the issues that the US wrestled with 20 and thirty years ago.
The use of the N word on this thread and the insistence on the right to do so came predominantly not from US residents but from other parts of the world.
I go to lots of sporting events here in the US. It is very rare for some one to shout a racial slur. Apparently this is a common, recurring problem for Thierry Henry. Sort of like it was for Jackie Robinson in the late 40's and early 50's and even Henry Aaron in the early 70's.
Originally posted by Red NightYou already went down from 30 to 25, why?. I reacted to one of your statements AFTER page 25. Or, are these statements 'untouchable' (forgive me the reference to my own example)? I have no need to (re)read the rest.
Yes, to that statement. The statement about racism at football matches was fairly recent. The first 25 pages of this thread deal with the primary question of racism on the forum.
Go ahead and read it if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by RookRAKActually he said "American's, outside of the Klan, almost never say the N word", without limiting it to public settings. Judging from the responses in this thread, that doesn't seem to be true.
My only point was to agree with Red Night, that in the current American culture of ultra-political-correctness, nobody is a public setting would dare use the N-word. When I was growing up in the sixites yes, but never today. I don't believe I have *ever* heard the world publicly spoken in 20 years aside from TV comedians.
That ultra-political-correctness is an interesting phenomenon. In connection with one of my bans, I had a discussion with a mod where I learned that a person who'd discuss the etymology of the f-word in a cafe in the US, speaking loud enough to be heard by other guests, would almost certainly get thrown out, while people don't have any problems with using the word among friends if nobody can overhear them. That's a very strange concept for me. I wouldn't use swear words to swear at someone, no matter whether it's in public or in private, while I wouldn't have any problems using the same words in a non-offensive way, e.g. discussing language, no matter whether it's in public or not (and I can't imagine getting thrown out of a cafe here for doing that). That's indeed an interesting cultural difference, and it may explain some of the problems in international forums like this one.