Racism and Bigotry should not be tolerated on R...

Originally posted by Phlabibit
You're welcome to raise your child as you see fit, have fun. If some idiot is in public thinking they are having ‘an intelligent conversation’ about the F-word in ear-shot of my child I’m going up in their face.

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Well, it depends on how old the kid is. At a certain age, they're going to hear those words anyway. When that day comes, I'd prefer they (my kids) know the proper meaning behind the words. It actually takes some of the mystery and "coolness" out of them.

Originally posted by Starrman
I'm not raining on your parade here, I'm just curious as to why you think that way. I'm not even saying I'll raise my child any differently.

A number of reasons. I don't want my kid teaching other kids these new words, I don't want my kid using the word the wrong way, and don't want teachers and other parents thinking I'm using that language in front of my children.

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Originally posted by rbmorris
Well, it depends on how old the kid is. At a certain age, they're going to hear those words anyway. When that day comes, I'd prefer they (my kids) know the proper meaning behind the words. It actually takes some of the mystery and "coolness" out of them.

I think I was about 11 or 12 when my father gave me a couple of 'key words' never to use, and why.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
A number of reasons. I don't want my kid teaching other kids these new words, I don't want my kid using the word the wrong way, and don't want teachers and other parents thinking I'm using that language in front of my children.

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Subjecting a child to Red Sox rooting is child abuse IMO.

Originally posted by Mephisto2
I am not attacking it, but just don't use it as a proof of maturity in the matter.

Back to this point. I suggested that MAYBE some of the race issues in Europe today were similiar to some of the race issues that the US went through 20 and 30 years ago.

Now, I was born in Europe. I have spent considerable time in Europe. I still consider myself a Scot on at least some level.

I understand that Europeans like to think that they are superiour to the US in every way. That's not true. There are certainly some areas where the US is ahead of Europe.

I suggested that MAYBE this is one of those areas!

Originally posted by Starrman
What is it with you and Hendrix? Get over it, you're starting to sound like a nutter.

I happen to think he was much better is all. But you are way ahead of me. I hope I don't catch up.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Subjecting a child to Red Sox rooting is child abuse IMO.

That what does not kill us.... I'm actually glad the Sox are starting to stink it up so my kid won't be spoiled.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Feel free to stay away from here then. We tend to find 'idiot' more offensive than any 'f-word'.

I don't use the term much at all if you would like to look through my posts, and didn't call any member of RHP an idiot. I was talking about anyone stupid enough to think having a conversation about a cuss in front of children in public.

They fit the bill.

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Originally posted by rbmorris
Well, it depends on how old the kid is. At a certain age, they're going to hear those words anyway. When that day comes, I'd prefer they (my kids) know the proper meaning behind the words. It actually takes some of the mystery and "coolness" out of them.

Excellent point.

But, you will admit there is a difference between you explaining the words to them and having them hear you use the words all of the time?

Originally posted by Phlabibit
I don't use the term much at all if you would like to look through my posts, and didn't call any member of RHP an idiot. I was talking about anyone stupid enough to think having a conversation about a cuss in front of children in public.

They fit the bill.

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I was taught not to curse in front of women and children.

Originally posted by Red Night
Back to this point. I suggested that MAYBE some of the race issues in Europe today were similiar to some of the race issues that the US went through 20 and 30 years ago.

Now, I was born in Europe. I have spent considerable time in Europe. I still consider myself a Scot on at least some level.

I understand that Europeans like to think that they are ...[text shortened]... areas where the US is ahead of Europe.

I suggested that MAYBE this is one of those areas!

'I understand that Europeans like to think that they are superiour to the US in every way. '
They are not, nor does the majority think that. I certainly do not. But MAYBE your inference is wrong (that dealing with racism would be an area where US is ahead of the rest of the world).

Originally posted by Phlabibit
A number of reasons. I don't want my kid teaching other kids these new words, I don't want my kid using the word the wrong way, and don't want teachers and other parents thinking I'm using that language in front of my children.

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I think it is a shame that certain words are percieved as intrinsically bad. The cultural/semantic implications are really interesting; these words carry neither a predicatory value (such as a 'brown' or 'small'😉, a designatory value (like 'shoe'😉, or a quantifying value (such as 'several'😉. Instead it might be said they carry a linguistic emotion, that lacks any dictionary meaning (although there may be some etymological event). I wonder what Russell would have made of them.

Originally posted by Red Night
Back to this point. I suggested that MAYBE some of the race issues in Europe today were similiar to some of the race issues that the US went through 20 and 30 years ago.

Now, I was born in Europe. I have spent considerable time in Europe. I still consider myself a Scot on at least some level.

I understand that Europeans like to think that they are areas where the US is ahead of Europe.

I suggested that MAYBE this is one of those areas!

I don't think that having socially enforced taboos is progessive. If anything, all the "PC" attitudes, the Bush administration and the religious right, have brought us back a few decades. Feels like we're in the damn 1950s these days.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
I happen to think he was much better is all. But you are way ahead of me. I hope I don't catch up.

Better than what? In what way am I ahead of you?

Originally posted by rbmorris
Well, it depends on how old the kid is. At a certain age, they're going to hear those words anyway. When that day comes, I'd prefer they (my kids) know the proper meaning behind the words. It actually takes some of the mystery and "coolness" out of them.

Exactly. I remember that from my own childhood, there were some words my classmates used and giggled about, and I doubt any of them had any idea what they meant (I know I didn't, although I didn't use them either). It was all about the mystery and about doing something forbidden. I doubt overhearing a discussion about etymology would cause children to get that word into their repertoire of swear words. And if it would, you could still talk with them about it and explain why they shouldn't use it. I wouldn't allow children to swear.