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@torunn saidSorry, but unless you know the entire story your observations are not valid.
Enough to make me agree with that quote. If you don't agree, just drop it - it is of no significance.
Your beliefs are rooted in ignorance since you have had zero experience with marriage. I have experience with marriage and it has changed my views on marriage. Marriage is more complex than unmarried people can understand.
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@very-rusty saidRusty, I said it is a quote and me agreeing with that quote is based on my observations. I didn't say it is based on my own experiences. Please.
Unless you've actually been married and walked in the shoes you have no idea just 3rd hand information that may or may not be accurate.
-VR
@very-rusty saidQuite often someone 'on the outside' sees more clearly than someone 'on the inside.'
Unless you've actually been married and walked in the shoes you have no idea just 3rd hand information that may or may not be accurate.
-VR
Have you not heard the expression, 'can't see the wood for the trees'?
@eladar saidReally Eladar, I made a quote which I agree to. I didn't say it is a fact.
Sorry, but unless you knpw the entire story your observations are not valid.
Your beliefs are rooted in ignorance since you have had zero experience with marriage. I have experience with marriage and it has changed my views on marriage. Marriage is more complex than unmarried people can understand.
@very-rusty saidhttps://hauteliving.com/hautelawyer/635280/divorce-requests-up-covid-19-quarantine/
I guess there has been a big spike in the Divorce rate since the Covid-19. People can't seem to live together who are married. I think someone had to have made this up.
-VR
I guess the quarantine is causing men to find other women as well as causing women to find themselves.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYes, I've heard the expression but unless you've been through something you don't really know. Then if you want to get deeper into the topic there is his side of the story and her side of the story and then you have the actual truth of what happened.
Quite often someone 'on the outside' sees more clearly than someone 'on the inside.'
Have you not heard the expression, 'can't see the wood for the trees'?
I've seen unfortunately too many marriages break up of friends, she has her side he has his side, it is like two completely different stories. I think if they had gotten some councelling by a professional they may still be together today. It does take a 3rd party sometimes to look at the situation as they are not bias.
-VR
@very-rusty said'It does take a 3rd party sometimes to look at the situation as they are not bias.'
Yes, I've heard the expression but unless you've been through something you don't really know. Then if you want to get deeper into the topic there is his side of the story and her side of the story and then you have the actual truth of what happened.
I've seen unfortunately too many marriages break up of friends, she has her side he has his side, it is like two complet ...[text shortened]... ther today. It does take a 3rd party sometimes to look at the situation as they are not bias.
-VR
Precisely.
@torunn saidWise words that apply to the culture in which I live - with its surfeit of deadbeat, adulterous and manchild husbands - except that it is socially and psychologically - and legally - difficult for women to initiate divorce unless there is a domestic violence angle.
"A man divorces when he finds a new woman.
A woman divorces when she finds herself."
Even then, the women are often 'blamed' for the beating and abuse they got and, economically, they get shafted by the courts [a danger that traps them in marriages to failed husbands and skews the stats].
But things are changing in that regard and that gives the second line of your wise saying its ring of truth.
@fmf saidWait.........Perhaps that is the way things work in your part of the world. I hadn't thought of that before!
Wise words that apply to the culture in which I live - with its surfeit of deadbeat, adulterous and manchild husbands - except that it is socially and psychologically - and legally - difficult for women to initiate divorce unless there is a domestic violence angle.
Even then, the women are often 'blamed' for the beating and abuse they got and, economically, they get shafted ...[text shortened]... gs are changing in that regard and that gives the second line of your wise saying its ring of truth.
-VR
@very-rusty saidIn my experience - in different cultures in various parts of the world spread over three decades and with a fair bit of work done on issues affecting women - I'd say there's a good degree of universality in Torunn's wise saying.
Wait.........Perhaps that is the way things work in your part of the world. I hadn't thought of that before!
-VR