Originally posted by chancremechanicThanks to abbundant American investment in this country, you have made it possible now for our people too to have fat arses. Of course, watching you on the telly, we all secretly aspire to be like you, and loading on the lard is just another step closer to realising that flabby dream.
If the men were able to see below their waist line, would they find you there?....I saw plenty of ruddy-cheeked Emerald Isle fatarses on my visit to Shannon....
First the Marshall Plan, and now this!
Really:
God bless you, America
-from the gratefully chubby citizens of Ireland, Europe.
Everybody now,
"oh say can you seeeeeeeee..."
Originally posted by sjegAt least there is still the opportunity for the "American Dream" if one works hard enough and educates themselves....can't say I've ever heard of "The Irish Dream", except from Notre Dame football fans....how much does an acre of land cost out in the country in Ireland?.....in many beautiful rural places in the US an acre can still be had for under a $1,000.....which means many Americans of average means and even slightly poor can buy land....what would it be in Ireland?....10 or 20xs that much?...enjoy the 40 shades of green from your tour bus, Laddy.....
[b]Live that American dream!
Originally posted by chancremechanicMy American Dream is that every flag waving righty like you kills an Irishman and is promptly hung for it .
At least there is still the opportunity for the "American Dream" if one works hard enough and educates themselves....can't say I've ever heard of "The Irish Dream", except from Notre Dame football fans....how much does an acre of land cost out in the country in Ireland?.....in many beautiful rural places in the US an acre can still be had for u ...[text shortened]... Ireland?....10 or 20xs that much?...enjoy the 40 shades of green from your tour bus, Laddy.....
Originally posted by Moldy CrowYour "American dream" probably involves Ron Jeremy, right bird-brain? I never mentioned anything about killing Irishmen, so the above mentioned "star" would be glad to show you a "hanging". My ancestors came to America from Scotland via Ireland, so I've nothing against Ireland personally. If you are ashamed to wave the US flag may I suggest you wave a rainbow flag?.....by the way, if you haven't noticed by now, I'm just right of center, but I defend my country, its honor, and its people unashamedly, and maybe a bit radically, UNLIKE most other "Americans" like you on this chess site, so get used to it, or go away.....
My American Dream is that every flag waving righty like you kills an Irishman and is promptly hung for it .
Originally posted by chancremechanic40 shades of green- classic!
At least there is still the opportunity for the "American Dream" if one works hard enough and educates themselves....can't say I've ever heard of "The Irish Dream", except from Notre Dame football fans....how much does an acre of land cost out in the country in Ireland?.....in many beautiful rural places in the US an acre can still be had for u ...[text shortened]... Ireland?....10 or 20xs that much?...enjoy the 40 shades of green from your tour bus, Laddy.....
Well, Ireland is pretty tiny, really, and thankfully, after many years of poverty, now has arguably the 2nd best economy in the world, and arguably the highest quality of life (1st last year, and second this year, if I'm not mistaken). However, in Europe we are among the worst for the rich-poor divide, i.e. a tiny amount of people have far too much money, like in the U.S.. However, employment is practically full, and the general wages are the highest per capita in Europe, behind only Luxembourg.
On land prices, then, I'm sure land ain't cheap here. However, I fail to see how having a mass of empty land in the middle of your rimmensely large 'country' (I'd say union would be more accurate) proves your theory that the American dream is non-fiction.
Please explain this dream, as I'd be interested to hear your point of view.
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Hi Crow, long time no chat. How goes it in Collorado? Send me a game if you have time.
Originally posted by chancremechanicLucky you weren't a German back in the 30s and 40s, Chancre. Blind patriotism like yours can be deadly.
but I defend my country, its honor, and its people unashamedly, and maybe a bit radically, UNLIKE most other "Americans" like you on this chess site, so get used to it, or go away.....
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Originally posted by sjegGlad you caught the little dig I indirectly shot your way . (I think it went over someone else's head .) I've been good . How've you been holding up ? I was beginning to think you'd fallen off your emerald slice of earth . I shoot a game your way later today .
40 shades of green- classic!
Well, Ireland is pretty tiny, really, and thankfully, after many years of poverty, now has arguably the 2nd best economy in the world, and arguably the highest quality of life (1st last year, and second this year, if I'm not mistaken). However, in Europe we are among the worst for the rich-poor divide, i.e. a tiny amount of peop ...[text shortened]...
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Hi Crow, long time no chat. How goes it in Collorado? Send me a game if you have time.
Originally posted by NordlysThose "blind" patriotic German soldiers immediately put their rifles down and simply built, from total ruin, and with assistance, the greatest economic power in Europe that still arguably is the epicenter of European economic power....and you say that's "unfortunate"? How did that affect Norway negatively?.....Norway was barely touched by the war except where the German fleet was stationed, right? I've been to Norway...a beautiful country, but ohhhh so cold.......
Unfortunately, a lot of those blind German patriots got away with it and stayed in or got back into high positions after the war. 🙁
Originally posted by RagnorakI'm not a blind patriot, Rag! I see where my country's fault's lay, and I'm not pro-Bush, although he is my Commander-in-Chief, militarily speaking, and would go to Iraq if ordered because I swore to an oath that all US servicemen/women must do before wearing the uniform. I don't neccesarily trust the gov't either, but I work for it and must follow orders from my superiors. The average German had no other figure to look up to back in the 30s and 40s except Hitler, and he promised them the things that the idiotic Allies took from them at the Treaty of Versaille....if the Allies had allowed Germany some dignity after WW1, Hitler wouldn't have been able to rise to power....yeah, blind patriotism can be dangerous, but it can also be victorious as the N. Koreans/Chinese proved in '53....and look at N. Korea today...in this case, blind patriotism was both victorious and deadly.....
Lucky you weren't a German back in the 30s and 40s, Chancre. Blind patriotism like yours can be deadly.
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Originally posted by sjegWell, I don't know how you come to refer to the US as a union instead of a country...explain that, please. I guess it could be called both, since it is a "union" of states that comprise a country. Is Ireland a "union" because it consists of counties, or is it a country?
40 shades of green- classic!
Well, Ireland is pretty tiny, really, and thankfully, after many years of poverty, now has arguably the 2nd best economy in the world, and arguably the highest quality of life (1st last year, and second this year, if I'm not mistaken). However, in Europe we are among the worst for the rich-poor divide, i.e. a tiny amount of peop ...[text shortened]...
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Hi Crow, long time no chat. How goes it in Collorado? Send me a game if you have time.
OK, if one owns land in the US, it rarely depreciates in value and often triplicates and more in value over time. Most people don't consider their land "empty" as one can grow anything from vegetables to fruits to trees for timber, raise farm animals, etc...how else do you figure America is able to feed the world? With land, you can build a house...or if one is too poor, at least put a nice mobile-home on it and still not be what you Euros call "rednecks"....if one has enough land, say 20 acres or so, he can live far enough away from other people as to have peace and quite. I'm afraid for future generations though as America's population grows that this "dream" will fade away, but for now, it is still alive and well...when I retire after service, I hope to have a few acres in the hills of Tennessee, God willing, where I can stretch my legs, breathe clean air, raise goats, not hear the roar of traffic, and sip on my Irish stout....now, if you think that is a fictitious dream, I'd hate to hear about your nightmares....peace
OK, if one owns land in the US, it rarely depreciates in value and often triplicates and more in value over time. Most people don't consider their land "empty" as one can grow anything from vegetables to fruits to trees for timber, raise farm animals, etc...how else do you figure America is able to feed the world? With land, you can build a house...or if one is too poor, at least put a nice m ...[text shortened]... ..now, if you think that is a fictitious dream, I'd hate to hear about your nightmares....peace[/b]this isn't true. property value often depreciates...especially in poor areas (or in rich areas because of encroaching poor areas). you're talking about rural land, whose price usually stays relatively even over time, increasing at the rate of inflation.
is it really the American dream to own land? but Americans also value work- but how can you own lots of land AND be a productive worker unless you're a farmer or rancher. not everybody wants to be a farmer or rancher. some people want to be lawyers and teachers and managers of accounts recievable. in order to work efficiently, they have to live near a major metropolitan center. in order to be Land Owners, they have to live far away. hence: Suburbs... the least efficient use of resources since automobiles. but everybody gets a peice of land- A Lawn. and they mow it. edge it. put flags in it and gardens with plaster gnomes and plastic windmills.
silly as it seems to me, this dream is what alot of people want, and people who attain this middle class dream worked hard to get there and continue to work hard, but they usually don't realize how big the gap between even the upper middle class and the SuperRich is. they a given to the notion that those people must have also gotten their wealth by working hard, which is exactly not the case. rich people are able to accumulate money simply by having money and gettin paid interest. this money has to come from somewhere and creates a lack of money elsewhere. this is cyclical. it's no surprise that we have a very unequal and inefficient distrubution of resources.
American myth: rich people are rich because they "earned" it.
the middle class that believes in a meritocracy is the gilded cushion on which the rich rest their arses. and faaaaaart....
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Originally posted by Darth SpongeI agree with a lot of your post, especially about the rich-poor gap, but I'm talking about usable property, not scrubland full of coyotes and rattlesnakes where only loco-weed grow. I agree that the suburbs are getting out of hand, and we need to develop a transportation system as Europe has, efficient to the point that people would prefer to use it than drive theri cars; I certailny would use public transport to the city if it was worth it...just as the "Robber Barons" of the Victorian age got their money, we have a modern "Robber Baron" era that is causing a widening gap between rich and poor.....the only way to solve is to vote some socialistic programs into our system, which would be great, but we have been ingrained with that Capitalistic prpaganda slogan "earn your bread, or starve"....been that way since about 1800, until Johnson's "War on Poverty" in the 60s tried to correct it with welfare; now we have generations of welfare junkies who wouldn't lift a wrench much less a pencil to get an education....but my hilly-green patch of country in Tennessee without the pink flamingos is my "American Dream" and about 10-15% of my income is going into an IRA account just for that....no crowded suburbs with pools, SUVs, "soccer Moms" for me, bud.....just goats, cows, some chickens, and a dog or two.....hopefully being able to earn 75% of my service pay a month along with free medical care for the rest of my life with cost of living increases for my wife and me, I'll be able to relax and either choose to work or just lay naked out in the back yard, tanning my "snake".....😀
this isn't true. property value often depreciates...especially in poor areas (or in rich areas because of encroaching poor areas). you're talking about rural land, whose price usually stays relatively even over time, increasing at the rate of inflation.
is it really the American dream to own land? but Americans also value work- but how can you o ...[text shortened]... in a meritocracy is the gilded cushion on which the rich rest their arses. and faaaaaart....