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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Good point....but I am objective. I criticize my country when needed.....I urge you to to search my past posts during the last 3 years, and you will see this. I feel that you Euros are the ones less objective...have you read your media (especially BBC and mainland Europe) on Hurricaine Katrina as an example?
Ok C.M.- forgive me if I take your word for it, though!

However, I don't know about this media question. It might seem a case of glass houses, to me, if you look at daily coverage of foreign events in the U.S..

Euros, i.e. Europeans? There are many different cultures in Europe, and while I believe we share a common European cultural identity, there are many states with differing circumstances. If you were to give Italy as an example of media bias, with the old cavaliere in charge, I'd say fair enough. England too, with old Rupert pulling so many strings.

But the B.B.C. is renouned for its unbiased coverage. It is an independent corporation, and often taken on the government, which is why Tony and R.M. aren't great fans. If Tony Bliar thinks he can score a quick moral vistory over the BBC, and paint them as anti-American, he'll be quick to do so as it backs up his stance over the last fifty years he's been P.M.!

{P.S. Will start that game later on, Moldy! Cheers}😞

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p.p.s. Zeeble- pity me, for I am but a impoverished student!

Plus I tried to get a part time job this week as a porter at the University, a job a monkey could do, and they rejected my application.

Ah woe...woe is me!

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
I'm sure plenty of rebel soldiers didn't want the immediate release of slaves after 100s of years of slavery, but the principle cause was states' rights to determine when to free the slaves in a timely fashion, as not to flood the land with dirt-poor ex-slaves, as the yankees wanted to do....by the way, is weltenschaung slang for one's "trouser trout"?.... LOL
To be honest I'm not aware of any imminent move within the southern states to free slaves. I'd love to have some references. Personally, I think the civil war *was* about slavery and more importantly by the threat of secession by the southern states.
Weltanschaung is a German phrase used in pysychology and philosophy. Basically, "world view".

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Originally posted by Moldy Crow
No I do not . He had cited History Channel as his source in a previous post . My point was that this single cited source did contain the information he was ignorant of , and thereby implied he was quite dim as he had not comprehended the information nor retained it . Nowhere did I imply that "history comes out of a TV channel".

If you read posts more carefully some of your despair may be alleviated .
Point taken. Apologies.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
Point taken. Apologies.
No problem .

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Originally posted by buffalobill
Weltanschaung is a German phrase used in pysychology and philosophy. Basically, "world view".
It's "Weltanschauung", to be correct. Welt = world, Anschauung = view.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Ok, maybe I am misinformed about how much war touched Norway; it isn't covered much on the History Channel or other documentaries dealing with WW2...maybe that's not fair. So, why did the German populace allow these "nazis'" to get back into some power position?
I think there are several reasons. Many people still believed in the nazi ideology. Others didn't, but didn't dare to speak up because their own record wasn't clean either. Many of the people who had been hardcore nazis were very good at conceiling their past. And those who are in power are seldom very much concerned with morals.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
that's funny, i was just going to say that about liberalism ...
Ooh, fighting talk! There are some of us who would say that if Bush and his administration had a better grounding in history and could see the big picture rather than their narrow US-centric viewpoint they would have thought twice about foreign excursions in the Middle East. The English and the Russians could have told him - both came deeply unstuck in Afghanistan in the 19th and 20th centuries respectively. Similarly, anyone with half a thought could see that a war on Iraq would only serve to polarise the world, unite enemies, create more enemies than friends, and result in a bottomless, winless pit, the nature of which we're now seeing play out in Iran.

And the acid test is to ask if the world is a better, safer place today. I think not.

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Originally posted by sjeg
p.p.s. Zeeble- pity me, for I am but a impoverished student!

Plus I tried to get a part time job this week as a porter at the University, a job a monkey could do, and they rejected my application.

Ah woe...woe is me!
get a security guard job, like canadaguy's. that's what i did.

do they have all you can eat restaurants there? you can eat one meal a day ($5 back in the day ...)

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
I'm guessing that Chancre has more cop on than to rely purely on anything the king of propaganda has to say, so I'll wait for his examples, thanks.

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Zeeblbot's example woks well enough for me...

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Originally posted by buffalobill
To be honest I'm not aware of any imminent move within the southern states to free slaves. I'd love to have some references. Personally, I think the civil war *was* about slavery and more importantly by the threat of secession by the southern states.
Weltanschaung is a German phrase used in pysychology and philosophy. Basically, "world view".
The fact that the North wanted to place anti-seccession measures on the South to become a seperate nation and dictate its policies were akin GB doing the same thing to the colonials. I believe the south would have eventually freed the slaves which would have been better for them as accomodations/assimilation could have taken place instead of the sudden outpouring of freed slaves into an economy that couldn't even support poor whites....after the war. Read a good and unbiased history of the Civil War to get the true picture....

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Originally posted by Moldy Crow
No I do not . He had cited History Channel as his source in a previous post . My point was that this single cited source did contain the information he was ignorant of , and thereby implied he was quite dim as he had not comprehended the information nor retained it . Nowhere did I imply that "history comes out of a TV channel".

If you read posts more carefully some of your despair may be alleviated .
I said that I didin't see it on the History Channel, "wood" pecker, so therefore I missed the Norwegian occupation segment, so how could I "comprehend id" it? Seems like YOU need to read more carefully and some of the bird $hit you sling may be alleviated.......

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Zeeblbot's example woks well enough for me...
So you haven't seen any examples yourself, but Rupert Murdoch says its happening, so it must be happening.

I thought you were better than that Chancre.

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Originally posted by sjeg
p.p.s. Zeeble- pity me, for I am but a impoverished student!

Plus I tried to get a part time job this week as a porter at the University, a job a monkey could do, and they rejected my application.

Ah woe...woe is me!
being a student doesn't entitle one to a job. being a university student doesn't imply one is responsible, mature, or have a work ethic.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
being a student doesn't entitle one to a job. being a university student doesn't imply one is responsible, mature, or have a work ethic.
Indeed, surely it implies quite the opposite!!😉