Wut...?

Originally posted by trev33
[b]that's the most idiot logic i've ever heard, it's been proven that if you add guns into a society it creates more crime, so you've found one state that has slack gun laws and low crime rate congrats, it doesn't change a thing. you pick a state, i'll pick a state. nevada. pretty much the same gun laws as NH but a seriously high crime rate.

2 of the highest ...[text shortened]... ) both have slack gun laws. and to mention the state Louisiana and high on the list Maryland.

People in other states don't use their guns to wack criminals. NH does. I guess it's just an odd ball coincidence that the citizens in NH are armed AND there's little crime. You moreffinon. Why the hell would you believe and list Paly posts? That list comes right out of Sarah Brady's butt. You idiot ! Then you believe that NOT killing murders lowers the crime rate. HAhahahahahahaaaaaaaa! Please explain how this occurs . Please.


Granny.

Originally posted by smw6869
People in other states don't use their guns to wack criminals. NH does. I guess it's just an odd ball coincidence that the citizens in NH are armed AND there's little crime. You moreffinon. Why the hell would you believe and list Paly posts? That list comes right out of Sarah Brady's butt. You idiot ! Then you believe that NOT killing murders lowers the crime rate. HAhahahahahahaaaaaaaa! Please explain how this occurs . Please.


Granny.

i'm not arguing that 'not killing murders lowers crime rate' whether i believe that to be true or not is irrelevant the fact remands that give a man a gun and he will use it. your theory is flawed and the facts prove that. look into it yourself, i stopped arguing with morons oblivious to the facts a long time ago.

Originally posted by smw6869
People in other states don't use their guns to wack criminals. NH does. I guess it's just an odd ball coincidence that the citizens in NH are armed AND there's little crime. You moreffinon. Why the hell would you believe and list Paly posts? That list comes right out of Sarah Brady's butt. You idiot ! Then you believe that NOT killing murders lowers the crime rate. HAhahahahahahaaaaaaaa! Please explain how this occurs . Please.


Granny.

I already explained. Without the hysterics.

And it's not just one or two states in the US. You can see it all around the world.

Originally posted by trev33
i'm not arguing that 'not killing murders lowers crime rate' weather i believe that to be true or not is irrelevant the fact remands that give a man a gun and he will use it. your theory is flawed and the facts prove that. look into in yourself, i stopped arguing with morons oblivious to the facts a long time ago.

The state killing of a murderer will Not lower crime rates, and the state Non killing of a murderer will not lower crime rates either. ....astoundingly moronic. " Give a man a gun and he will use it" ( i'm assuming you mean in a criminal way).....EPIC FALLACY !!!!!. Simply check the FBI Uniform Crime Reports and you will see that 3 million times per year a US citizen uses a legal firearm to save his life. Learn the real facts moron before you spout bull. Now, give Granny a big kiss !

Originally posted by Palynka
I already explained. Without the hysterics.

And it's not just one or two states in the US. You can see it all around the world.

You have Not explained it in such a manner that makes any sense. Please explain in non philosophical, non mumbo jumbo terms. ...or not. I can tell you if what you say is true i would be 100% for it.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
You have Not explained it in such a manner that makes any sense. Please explain in non philosophical, non mumbo jumbo terms. ...or not. I can tell you if what you say is true i would be 100% for it.

GRANNY.

Sorry, I'm not good at dumbing things down for rednecks.

Originally posted by smw6869
The state killing of a murderer will Not lower crime rates, and the state Non killing of a murderer will not lower crime rates either. ....astoundingly moronic. " Give a man a gun and he will use it" ( i'm assuming you mean in a criminal way).....EPIC FALLACY !!!!!. Simply check the FBI Uniform Crime Reports and you will see that 3 million times per year a ...[text shortened]... ave his life. Learn the real facts moron before you spout bull. Now, give Granny a big kiss !

LOL i see you're clutching at strews now, i never stated whether i though that "state killing of a murderer" will or will not lower crime rates. astoundingly moronic on your part indeed.

also don't presume anything, it only makes you look foolish. you were saying that crime rates in NH is low because people have guns in their homes... i'm saying that this doesn't deter many other people in states that also have slack gun laws from committing crimes, the facts are there to prove that.

saving his live by killing someone who also legally bought a gun who was threatening him? yeah i love that stat guns really prevent crime you spastic.

look at canada, still think having a gun at home lowers crime rate?

lets face it the easier it is to own a gun the more gun related fatalities there will be FACT. NH is just one small place that bucks that trend.

Originally posted by Palynka
Sorry, I'm not good at dumbing things down for rednecks.

FAIL !!!!!!! I didn't think you had any idea what you were talking about, but you do like to make believe you have substance in your ramblings. Suck a pink one for Granny.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
People in other states don't use their guns to wack criminals. NH does.

Please provide something that backs this up in numbers where NH residents are whacking criminals with guns which we can attribute the low crime rate to, Granny. If you would.

And don't get fresh or we won't be friends anymore.

Originally posted by trev33
LOL i see you're clutching at strews now, i never stated whether i though that "state killing of a murderer" will or will not lower crime rates. astoundingly moronic on your part indeed.

also don't presume anything, it only makes you look foolish. you were saying that crime rates in NH is low because people have guns in their homes... i'm saying that this ...[text shortened]... related fatalities there will be FACT. NH is just one small place that bucks that trend.

Paly is the only one who clutches straws. Who said anything about killing to save your life. Simply brandishing a weapon is good enough. Either way i guess you'd just a soon have those 3 million people dead.

So, according to you, Guns Kill, just not in NH. AHhahahahahhaaaaaaa! NH is loaded with guns. Why aren't there more gun crimes? Are you sucking on the same straw Paly is? I'm going to give you one of my guns. I just want to see how long it take you to kill someone. I say never, but then you must perceive your self as a much better person than the average schmuck, don't you?

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
Paly is the only one who clutches straws. Who said anything about killing to save your life. Simply brandishing a weapon is good enough. Either way i guess you'd just a soon have those 3 million people dead.

So, according to you, Guns Kill, just not in NH. AHhahahahahhaaaaaaa! NH is loaded with guns. Why aren't there more gun crimes? Are you sucking on t ...[text shortened]... perceive your self as a much better person than the average schmuck, don't you?

GRANNY.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2007-releases/press01112007.html

Game over.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Please provide something that backs this up in numbers where NH residents are whacking criminals with guns which we can attribute the low crime rate to, Granny. If you would.

And don't get fresh or we won't be friends anymore.

Your state motto says it all. People in NH take no crap from criminals and they're willing and able to wack when wacking is needed. I don't have numbers, but i have friends in NH and criminals tend to take them seriously. Lots of guns = polite neighbours = Granny's moving to NH soon.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by Palynka
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2007-releases/press01112007.html

Game over.

First of all i don't read liberal anti gun press releases. This is no more than strawmanish fallacitiousness anyway. The real question is: How does Not killing a murderer cause crime to be lower ?

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
Paly is the only one who clutches straws. Who said anything about killing to save your life. Simply brandishing a weapon is good enough. Either way i guess you'd just a soon have those 3 million people dead.

So, according to you, Guns Kill, just not in NH. AHhahahahahhaaaaaaa! NH is loaded with guns. Why aren't there more gun crimes? Are you sucking on t perceive your self as a much better person than the average schmuck, don't you?

GRANNY.

"During 2001, the CDC reported a total of 157,078 injury-deaths. On their interactive Web site, if you click "Firearm" under "Cause of Injury," the figure becomes 29,573."

30,000 people killed or injured by guns in america in 2001. 30,000. funny how all those guns kept in people's draws beside their bed to prevent someone from breaking into their homes are getting out and causing harm to nearly 30,000 people isn't it?

and before you start this quote comes from pro gun, pro republican fox news trying to say there isn't a gun problem in the us. hmmmm

like i said before, the fact that NH has a low crime rate despite it's slack gun laws is a testament to that state and its people but certainly not the norm in america.

Originally posted by trev33
"During 2001, the CDC reported a total of 157,078 injury-deaths. On their interactive Web site, if you click "Firearm" under "Cause of Injury," the figure becomes 29,573."

30,000 people killed or injured by guns in america in 2001. 30,000. funny how all those guns kept in people's draws beside their bed to prevent someone from breaking into their homes are ...[text shortened]... aws is a testament to that state and its people but certainly not the norm in america.

"30,000 people killed or injured by guns"

Breakdown: approx.

15,000 thugs, criminals, gangsters killing each other.
5,000 criminals killed by cops.
5,000 suicides.
1,000 hunting and other accidents.
4,000 other murders by gun.
6,000 non death related accidents.