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Yea or nay and why?
Originally posted by ahosyneyJohn 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
You are lucky I'm still awake 🙂
No, because he never claimed to be divine, and he said that the father is the only true GOD in John 17:3
Originally posted by whodeyJohn 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
So eternal life requires knowing the Father and the Son? Interesting.
Originally posted by whodeyDon't know and don't know if it's at all important. Seems to me that what Jesus saw as imperative was for us to overcome sin and live a life of love, compassion, justice, etc. I wish more would truly follow Him. It would be a much different world.
Yea or nay and why?
Originally posted by whodeyhere's the problem: quoting the Bible as an infallible, unerroring source. it's not! it's full of errors and contradictions!
John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
So eternal life requires knowing the Father and the Son? Interesting.
Originally posted by ahosyneyThe concept of the Trinity in no way denies that there is only one God. In fact, Christ said that if you have seen me you have seen the Father and that they were One even though Christ talked about the Father at times as if they were seperate entities.
What does the "know thee the only true God" tell you?
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomYou mean like the mortals reading it? 😛
im sure a book that long written by mortals would have errors 😕
Originally posted by whodeyWell, I would say that the answer to this is a matter of faith. I would suppose that the majority of
Yea or nay and why?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneDo I understand you correctly that you feel that His divinity (or lack thereof) is inessential to
Don't know and don't know if it's at all important. Seems to me that what Jesus saw as imperative was for us to overcome sin and live a life of love, compassion, justice, etc. I wish more would truly follow Him. It would be a much different world.
Originally posted by whodeySpeaking of prophets, how about Isaiah?
The concept of the Trinity in no way denies that there is only one God. In fact, Christ said that if you have seen me you have seen the Father and that they were One even though Christ talked about the Father at times as if they were seperate entities.
Edit: Has any of the other prophet made such a claim as Christ? For example, did Moses say that you mus ...[text shortened]... ife? Did Isaiah? How about Jeremiah? No, I don't recall such a claim from any other prophet.
Originally posted by NemesioThrow out the Creed if you like and simply study the same scriptures those that made the Creed had to work with.
Well, I would say that the answer to this is a matter of faith. I would suppose that the majority of
the world would say 'No,' because they disbelieve in Creedal Christianity. I would suppose that most,
but not all, Christians would say, 'Yes,' because they've adopted the tenets of the Apostles' Creed as
articles of faith. The reason I say not all is b ...[text shortened]... pose, then let me know, and we can examine the
Christian Scriptures.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioIt was not my intent to adress this issue in this thread. If you would like to adress it, however, please feel free to start another. You know, no one like to be hijacked. 😉
Do I understand you correctly that you feel that His divinity (or lack thereof) is inessential to
Christian faith and the resultant duties that being a Christian demands?
Nemesio