Originally posted by wormwoodWhy amazed?
kramnik just said he hadn't prepared for leningrad except for last night (to whether he had bought a leningrad book last night like with the pirc, he said he couldn't because all the books were sold already 😀), when he looked at c6 leningrad with Ne5 and thought that just can't be good for black no matter what the others have played. but he couldn't find a ...[text shortened]... very bad" (😀), because he was so bored to see the same old faces every time. 🙂
These guys don't know every opening.I don't follow top level chess much anymore,does he face leningrad often?If not it's quite possible he hadn't prepared to meet it.
On the other hand his 'old notes' may be a treasure trove to us 🙂
Originally posted by AjuinWell he just came out of a WC match where he played 1.d4 exclusively, and the leningrad is an interesting and playable response by black, I'm surprised he isn't heavily booked up against that too.
Why amazed?
These guys don't know every opening.I don't follow top level chess much anymore,does he face leningrad often?If not it's quite possible he hadn't prepared to meet it.
On the other hand his 'old notes' may be a treasure trove to us 🙂
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Originally posted by philidor positionHm,in that case I'd like to see these 'old notes' 😵
Well he just came out of a WC match where he played 1.d4 exclusively, and the leningrad is an interesting and playable response by black, I'm surprised he isn't heavily booked up against that too.
On another note.This "Carlsen who is not very bad" seems to be some sort of russian joke.I remember Spassky saying this about Karpov and/or Kasparov and I think Botvinnik and others have expressed similar things about yet other upcoming players.
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Originally posted by wormwoodwhat happened to Magnus? was that an amazing game played by Vlad or what? i thought he was mince??? but apparently not! exchange sacs, pawns rollers, man that was awesome, from the very beginning he seemed to be causing Magnus problems. Any insight on what happened to Magnus? Also noticed that Naka tried a Catalan??? type of fianchettoed queens gambit thing and also got wellied! i thought Karjakin was brilliant in opening the game for his two bishops, really awesome.
he was interviewed on icc soon after the game...
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiehe dropped a knight in extreme time trouble. when he played 35.Nb6 he had seconds against kramnik's 15 mins or something like that.
what happened to Magnus? was that an amazing game played by Vlad or what? i thought he was mince??? but apparently not! exchange sacs, pawns rollers, man that was awesome, from the very beginning he seemed to be causing Magnus problems. Any insight on what happened to Magnus?
Magnus Carlsen`s Blog
Corus 2010 Round 9
Before the game as white against V.Kramnik today, we had spent quite some time on opening preparation. Maybe too much, I did not have a good day at work today, that’s for sure. I chose 1.d4 and the Catalan Opening, and the position got very interesting after I sacrificed a pawn on d5. We both spent quite some time in the complex middle game, but in the end I had spent too much time and the position was still complicated. In an unclear position I just blundered a piece and could just resign a few moves later. Frankly, the possibility of losing today had not really crossed my mind. The good news is that I haven’t lost a classical game since Dortmund in July and had nearly forgotten what it’s like. The bad news, it’s not a pleasant feeling. With 4 rounds left Shirov and Kramnik are leading with 6,5 points, I’m sharing 3rd place at 5,5 with my opponent tomorrow S.Karjakin, Ukraine. Magnus Carlsen, Wijk aan Zee
2010-01-27 01:16:11
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Originally posted by philidor positionwhat is Vlad saying about it, was it not awesomely played by him, all kinds of juicy manoeuvres and intricacies 🙂 i especially liked when he played 13.gxf6 a move that looks as though it seriously weakened the king, which it does i suppose, and Magnus nearly exploited it, but well, it gave Vlad central control. these kind of subtleties are the joy of watching this type of play, well done Vlad ! 🙂
he dropped a knight in extreme time trouble. when he played 35.Nb6 he had seconds against kramnik's 15 mins or something like that.
Magnus Carlsen`s Blog
Corus 2010 Round 9
Before the game as white against V.Kramnik today, we had spent quite some time on opening preparation. Maybe too much, I did not have a good day at work today, tha ...[text shortened]... Wijk aan Zee
2010-01-27 01:16:11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieyes 13.gxf6 completely surprised me too, while I was watching the game. then I did figure out Nxf6 drops the c pawn to Ne5 but I still don't know why he can't take back with Bxf6. Maybe Ne4 then, hitting the bishop but why not just move it away and white's two knights and the g2 bishop are looking funny. these remind me of how little I know of chess.
what is Vlad saying about it, was it not awesomely played by him, all kinds of juicy manoeuvres and intricacies 🙂 i especially liked when he played 13.gxf6 a move that looks as though it seriously weakened the king, which it does i suppose, and Magnus nearly exploited it, but well, it gave Vlad central control. these kind of subtleties are the joy of watching this type of play, well done Vlad ! 🙂
I hope chessvibes will have one of those press conferences for the game where he explains stuff, he is pretty good at that.
Originally posted by philidor positioni love it, he is like a spectre coming to haunt Kasparov, any more and ol Gazza will need to come out of retirement 🙂
yes 13.gxf6 completely surprised me too, while I was watching the game. then I did figure out Nxf6 drops the c pawn to Ne5 but I still don't know why he can't take back with Bxf6. Maybe Ne4 then, hitting the bishop but why not just move it away and white's two knights and the g2 bishop are looking funny. these remind me of how little I know of ches ...[text shortened]... e of those press conferences for the game where he explains stuff, he is pretty good at that.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobienow that you mention it, how about some conspiracy theory, or more like some cheap drama 🙂 :
i love it, he is like a spectre coming to haunt Kasparov, any more and ol Gazza will need to come out of retirement 🙂
Kasparov gets so obsessed with taking revenge from Kramnik that he gets too excited about it, acts strangely and over-aggressively and just exhausts the kid to death, in the end, at 5 o'clock in the morning, magnus can't stand it any more and they have a fight, carlsen rebels, "it's not your game any more, it's mine, I'm not a tool doing your dirty work for personal grudges, your time is over, old man, over, do you understand, it's over!" Kasparov replies with some other cheap line, carlsen's father comes in and ends the fight.
that would explain why carlsen wrote these in his blog: "Before the game as white against V.Kramnik today, we had spent quite some time on opening preparation. Maybe too much, I did not have a good day at work today, that’s for sure."
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whoa, whoa, look at this:
Kramnik said:
"Magnus took two minutes for his first move. He had his eyes closed. I thought maybe I should wake him up. He probably had a big discussion with Gary who wanted him to play 1.e4!"
and the plot deepens!
Originally posted by philidor positionwoa, yes, it seems rather plausible, who takes two minutes for their opening moves except perhaps David Bronstein in the past, who could take four days and not make a move, just contemplating the possibilities 🙂
now that you mention it, how about some conspiracy theory, or more like some cheap drama 🙂 :
Kasparov gets so obsessed with taking revenge from Kramnik that he gets too excited about it, acts strangely and over-aggressively and just exhausts the kid to death, in the end, at 5 o'clock in the morning, magnus can't stand it any more and they have ...[text shortened]... d a big discussion with Gary who wanted him to play 1.e4!"
and the plot deepens!
it was one of the reasons Gazza took on Marcus, he fely that his opening play was not up to standard for this level, but there is only so much the kid can take, like you say!
Originally posted by robbie carrobiefirst loss in what, 40 games, and people are concerned about how much he can take? 🙂
woa, yes, it seems rather plausible, who takes two minutes for their opening moves except perhaps David Bronstein in the past, who could take four days and not make a move, just contemplating the possibilities 🙂
it was one of the reasons Gazza took on Marcus, he fely that his opening play was not up to standard for this level, but there is only so much the kid can take, like you say!
Originally posted by wormwoodit is nothing to do with how much he can take over time, he was almost asleep, Kramnik stated that he thought that he should wake him up. Have you seen the video? He is wasted! In his own words he spent far too long on opening preparation, is that simply coincidence?
first loss in what, 40 games, and people are concerned about how much he can take? 🙂