Another thread about abiogenesis and evolution.

@sonhouse said
Humans telling me about their favorite god does not do it for me. A REAL god comes down, DONALD, here is how it is.
THAT I can listen to.

Material being place in a manner that causes on going layered functional complex intergraded processes is the question, you know of anything out side of a mind that can do that?

Science: this is the topic!

@KellyJay said
Material being place in a manner that causes on going layered functional complex intergraded processes is the question, you know of anything out side of a mind that can do that?

You know, you are not going to convert me.

@KellyJay said
Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life.

Great. Let him tell me directly.

@sonhouse said
You know, you are not going to convert me.

That is between the two of you.

@KellyJay said
That is between the two of you.

One thing I don't abide is religious arrogance.
You think you are riding the high tide because you will be back with the OTHER trillion people who died and your heaven has ALL them living there singing praises for a god who would HAVE to get terminally bored with trillions of people singing hosanas.

@sonhouse said
One thing I don't abide is religious arrogance.
You think you are riding the high tide because you will be back with the OTHER trillion people who died and your heaven has ALL them living there singing praises for a god who would HAVE to get terminally bored with trillions of people singing hosanas.

I am talking about instructions you changed the topic.

@KellyJay said
I am talking about instructions you changed the topic.

Sorry, unable to process instructions. I compose music, up to 505 tracks of acoustic instrumentals so that will be my legacy aside from working clean rooms all over the world and played music professionally and now just compose tunes.
Don't need anything more than that, wife and I love each other, married close to 50 years now, 8 kids, 7 living.
Daughter Heather working on Phd in music in brazil, the other kids here in PA and are successful.
So don't need anyone to tell me about life or spirituality.
I think you refuse to listen to my tunes for fear of getting getting a dose of the Devil.

@sonhouse said
Sorry, unable to process instructions. I compose music, up to 505 tracks of acoustic instrumentals so that will be my legacy aside from working clean rooms all over the world and played music professionally and now just compose tunes.
Don't need anything more than that, wife and I love each other, married close to 50 years now, 8 kids, 7 living.
Daughter Heather working on ...[text shortened]... ituality.
I think you refuse to listen to my tunes for fear of getting getting a dose of the Devil.

And when it comes to the biological processes that are guided by instructional directions that information got there how?

@KellyJay said
And when it comes to the biological processes that are guided by instructional directions that information got there how?

come back in a couple hundred years, we might have a good handle on it then.
Till then, I am sure you are dancing in the street we have not produced life from mud in the labs, at least so far.
I just think humans, the best of us anyway, are smart enough to figure it all out assuming we HAVE a civilization in the aftermath of the Trump era.

@sonhouse said
come back in a couple hundred years, we might have a good handle on it then.
Till then, I am sure you are dancing in the street we have not produced life from mud in the labs, at least so far.
I just think humans, the best of us anyway, are smart enough to figure it all out assuming we HAVE a civilization in the aftermath of the Trump era.

Do you know of anything out side of a mind that writes instuction for processes? You think something will show up in a couple hundred years, that blind faith?

@KellyJay said
Do you know of anything out side of a mind that writes instuction for processes? You think something will show up in a couple hundred years, that blind faith?

Kind of like the blind faith you show to your man made god.

@sonhouse said
Kind of like the blind faith you show to your man made god.

No, I have reasons to believe what I do; you have reasons to believe that someday you will stumble across something other than a mind writing instructions? That is the question: Are you suggesting that your beliefs about science are just like my beliefs in God to make that comparison?

@KellyJay said
No, I have reasons to believe what I do; you have reasons to believe that someday you will stumble across something other than a mind writing instructions? That is the question: Are you suggesting that your beliefs about science are just like my beliefs in God to make that comparison?

There is no 'reason' when it comes to one's religious faith. Faith is an emotional response with nothing to do with reason.

@sonhouse said
There is no 'reason' when it comes to one's religious faith. Faith is an emotional response with nothing to do with reason.

So why not stay on topic and talk about informational instructions?

@KellyJay said
So why not stay on topic and talk about informational instructions?

Because you are dead set against even the possibility of random processes ending in life. You just go round and round, there HAS to be a creator.
Not interested in that kind of 'debate'.