@metal-brain said
That is the time dilation of the particle or mass less particle. Nobody is calling that gravity. I'm talking about time dilation from matter, not velocity. I have said that many times, but you want to believe velocity time dilation is relevant.
Digression away from what I am talking about does not prove anything. All that proves is you like to obfuscate by changing the subject. A child can do that.
I'm looking at your first sentence:
That is the time dilation of the particle or mass less particle.
what you've written here seems to imply that you think that time dilation is a property of a particle. Is this a fair statement of your belief as to what "time dilation" is?
This isn't a criticism, but I want to make a point about your second sentence:
I'm talking about time dilation from matter, not velocity.
this is problematic as the state of motion of the particle is always going to matter. Imagine one cannon ball resting on the edge of a cliff and another in free fall a few feet past the cliff edge. At the moment the falling one is at just the same height as the resting one there'll be a difference in the rate the associated clocks run because they're in different states of motion. In a sense the one in free fall is in the more natural frame from the point of view of trying to separate out "time dilation from motion" and "time dilation from the gravitational field", but there are an infinite number of such inertial frames of reference corresponding to different heights the ball's dropped from. We could use the cannon ball at rest, as that frame is unique, but to me it seems less natural being an accelerated frame - an upward force from the ground is needed to prevent the ball from falling. I suppose it's unique so we should choose it. What I'm getting at here is that this attempt to separate out contributions to time dilation isn't actually trivial.
Note: "frame" is short for "frame of reference" and is a standard term in Relativity theory. If you don't know what I mean by this I'll explain on request, provided you read at least the intro to the Wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_of_reference