Originally posted by tmetzlerIm not sure how mods would be selected, id like to hear peoples input on this.
1. How should mods be selected? I assume they would all have to be volunteers.
2. Will games need to be run through multiple programs to detect cheating/assistance? (Fritz, Chessmaster, etc.)
3. Should there be a penalty of some type (ratings loss or something) for false accusations? I don't think the volunteer mods will want to waste their ti ...[text shortened]... people are angry about losing.
4. more to come....but I'd like to see what others say..
Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowCan you give an estimation on how many people are cheating on the site?
Id like to start off a thread where people can post their ideas on how to deal with engine use on this site.
Id suggest having chess mods, who people can turn to when they think someone is cheating against them, this would keep it out of the forums and make the site a better place to play chess. It might work something like having a fair few ...[text shortened]... ee other mods who would agree or disagree with it and the problems could be worked out that way.
Originally posted by RavelloGood points. People would have to agree on a set number of games, Ravellos 5 is a good number, the chances of someone following an engine for 5 good games is somewhere off in the billions to one.
I already said it sometimes ago,but it presents some problematic points.
A pool of three guys who analize games would be needed:preferably very high rated and volunteers.
Cheating accusations would be taken in consideration if only a given number of games is suspected to be ''dirty'':e.g. 5 games
This should be dealt in a private way,like mods d ...[text shortened]... from the site,at admins discretion.
Maybe later something more will come to my mnd......
Originally posted by gumbieIm not sure how many cheat, without mentioning names im sure we have all come across some at one point or another on RHP.
Can you give an estimation on how many people are cheating on the site?
Is it possible to detect cheaters who don't use an engine for every single move?
Originally posted by tmetzlerI think accusations should be made by anyone. If people had to keep quiet when they suspect someone was cheating they would turn to the forums.
1. Perhaps accusations made by preliminary players should disregarded. Re: false accusations.
2. Can accusations (alerts) be made only by the opponent? Most games played are public, and non-opponents have been known to go through game history, etc. Can I "alert" about a player I haven't played? Or should it be reserved for opponents-only.
Originally posted by tmetzler1.the reinstating or change of the result of a game is impossible and would lead every people who loses to ask their game to be analized,because they hope to replay the game or to get back the points lost.
I think we'll have to wait for the weekdays to arrive for more contributers, but here is some input.
1. What if a player is found to have cheated on a game. The screwed over player might ask for the game to be overturned. There would definitely need to a policy stated about that. I think the game must stand as-is, despite the cheating. Otherwise it ...[text shortened]... ng them? Or is he in the clear due to the TOS?
Edit: Ravello, you beat me to some of them...
Originally posted by RavelloI think a refund would probably required to avoid the possibility of having to prove the engine use in a court of law.
4.Since the user who was found guilty of cheating was also found guilty of breaking the Terms of service,no refund is required.
This is a part of the TOS regarding this:[b]You agree that RHP may, under certain circumstances and without prior notice, immediately terminate your RHP account,and access to the Service. Cause for such termination shall include, ...[text shortened]... or violations of the TOS or other incorporated agreements or guidelines,etc.etc............[/b]
Originally posted by gumbieSome might say that this would lose the site money, but I think it would encourage more people to join in the end. Im only here because I know a few people on the site in real life, if I was picking a site to play chess on as many do, I would have checked the sites policy towards cheaters before joining.
I think a refund would probably required to avoid the possibility of having to prove the engine use in a court of law.