Originally posted by Rajk999
Maybe its time to stop then. Remember I used to be leading the JW criticisms some years ago. You seem to have taken over. Not sure you getting through to them. Give it a break and lets get back to some more juicy topics 😀

Yes you are right. In fact my post above was a sort of resignation that another 600+ post thread has not achieved anything.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Have you tried boohoo.com ? For the man for whom the total summation of spirituality is to attack Jehovahs Witnesses I find your pretension to reason mock worthy, as far as I can tell you are unable to reason on a single Scripture probably because you don't have the calling how else are we to account for it, rather strange for someone who claims to be destined to be a king and a priest with Christ in the heavens.

Mock all you want, we both know what the psalms say about mockers. My post is a reasoned, honest assessment of what it's like debating with you and Galveston on anything, and importantly why it's like it is.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
We should always try reasoning on Scripture. If the total summation of your spirituality is to attack Jehovahs Witnesses then you may end up like divesgeester, devoid of reason, exposed and condemned by his own words, a floundering shell of a Christian. If you are going to sow hatred then don't be surprised if you reap it, much better it is to appeal to reason.

Except that you *don't* "appeal to reason".

Lord knows we've all tried.

But because you insist on staying enslaved to the 'faithful and discreet slave'™, it is you who stands "devoid of reason, exposed and condemned by his own words, a floundering shell of a Christian".

But I'm not holding my breath waiting for a change.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no what you have provided is a serious of lame excuses justifying why you have hidden your talent, tell it to Jesus, your stance amounts to this,

1. Only those with a so called calling preach and teach - if this is the case then by your own admission your are not qualified to teach and preach and we should pay no heed to your words because you ha ...[text shortened]...
My work here is done, you may tell the Christ upon his return why you have hidden your talent.

What's it like arguing when half the stuff you're arguing isn't even true?

Originally posted by Suzianne
What's it like arguing when half the stuff you're arguing isn't even true?

Wow a philosopher, why don't you tell us what is true and what is not true seeing that you can tell.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Except that you *don't* "appeal to reason".

Lord knows we've all tried.

But because you insist on staying enslaved to the 'faithful and discreet slave'™, it is you who stands "devoid of reason, exposed and condemned by his own words, a floundering shell of a Christian".

But I'm not holding my breath waiting for a change.

there was a plethora of scriptures given see if you can reason on just one, i set it as a goal for your homework, just one! lets see if you can do it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no what you have provided is a serious of lame excuses justifying why you have hidden your talent, tell it to Jesus, your stance amounts to this,

1. Only those with a so called calling preach and teach - if this is the case then by your own admission your are not qualified to teach and preach and we should pay no heed to your words because you ha ...[text shortened]...
My work here is done, you may tell the Christ upon his return why you have hidden your talent.

I never said I had no calling. Some are called for various purposes. I am not called to go door to door and bother my neighbors by trying to preach to them. I am not called to be a pastor of a church. I am not called to speak in tongues. But the Holy Spirit keeps calling back to this Spirituality Forum to instruct atheists, evilutionists, JWs, and other non-believers in the truth. I am called to be...

The Moron Instructor

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am called to be...

The Moron Instructor

Yeah, how is all that going anyway?

Originally posted by divegeester
Yeah, how is all that going anyway?

It was going really well until he added "instructor" to
his "The Moron" epithet.

Originally posted by divegeester
Yeah, how is all that going anyway?

Time will tell.

HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

Originally posted by RJHinds
Time will tell...

How do you think calling yourself or other people a "moron" supports your mission here?

How much time needs to pass before you will know?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
there was a plethora of scriptures given see if you can reason on just one, i set it as a goal for your homework, just one! lets see if you can do it.

Anyway back to the OP...

Can you explain why your publications seem to hold conflicting direction for people leaving their religious group to join the JWs and another direction for those wishing to leave the JWs?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I never said I had no calling. Some are called for various purposes. I am not called to go door to door and bother my neighbors by trying to preach to them. I am not called to be a pastor of a church. I am not called to speak in tongues. But the Holy Spirit keeps calling back to this Spirituality Forum to instruct atheists, evilutionists, JWs, and other non-believers in the truth. I am called to be...

The Moron Instructor

then what is your calling according to the gifts mentioned in the Bible, try as i might i cannot find instructing atheists, evilutionists or anything else, did you simply make up your calling to fit in with your personal preferences? Once again what we see is a spirit of personal convenience rather than a true Christian spirit of self sacrifice.

Originally posted by divegeester
Anyway back to the OP...

Can you explain why your publications seem to hold conflicting direction for people leaving their religious group to join the JWs and another direction for those wishing to leave the JWs?

First of all i do not hold that the views are conflicting, it is your assertion not mine, why don't you justify it yourself it would be a novelty and no problem for a man of great erudition and reasoning abilities like yourself.

Secondly i am not a spokesperson for the Watchtower Bible and tract society of Pennsylvania incorporated, if you have any questions regarding their publications i suggest you write phone or email them, you may visit their site at www.jw.org

If you have any Biblical scriptures to discuss i will be more than happy to discuss them.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
then what is your calling according to the gifts mentioned in the Bible, try as i might i cannot find instructing atheists, evilutionists or anything else, did you simply make up your calling to fit in with your personal preferences? Once again what we see is a spirit of personal convenience rather than a true Christian spirit of self sacrifice.

You must mean gifts mentioned in the AWAKE magazine.

The moron Instructor