Originally posted by NemesioSure - just look for the halo around their head.
Let's say you are invisible and
inaudible and observing a person on the street. Let's say you can
follow this person, but not interact. What about this person will allow
you to conclude that s/he is regenerated (your word...)? Given this
situation, can you ever draw this conclusion with certainty about this
other person?
🙂
Originally posted by jaywillLH was teasing me, Mr Sensitive.
Sigh. Well fashioned challenges degenerating to cheap one line wise cracks.
Is that the best you guys can do?
I posted a serious inquiry on the previous page. I'm sure Christ will
put it into you heart to apologize for claiming that I am not responding
to your 'well-fashioned challenges.'
Nemesio
Originally posted by lucifershammerJust make your point, go read some unknown specific passages of
Read the passage of Jesus's baptism just before his meeting with Nicodemus (in John's Gospel). And remember that the Bible didn't have chapters for several centuries - people read them as an integrated whole.
scirpture does not answer my question.
Kelly
Originally posted by NemesioThe doing is important, but it isn't the bottom line, the relationship
You didn't answer my questions directly.
I asked specifically what does Christ having in your heart inspire,
specifically what does that Christ-inspired person [b]DO differently.
It would seem to me that one who is Christ-inspired will behave
differently than one who is not. What is the content and nature of
that behavior?
Let me clarify my ...[text shortened]... uation, can you ever draw this conclusion with certainty about this
other person?
Nemesio[/b]
is.
Kelly
Originally posted by NemesioThis question is somewhat like asking what does a person who is born do?
You didn't answer my questions directly.
I asked specifically what does Christ having in your heart inspire,
specifically what does that Christ-inspired person [b]DO differently.
It would seem to me that one who is Christ-inspired will behave
differently than one who is not. What is the content and nature of
that behavior?
Let me clarify my uation, can you ever draw this conclusion with certainty about this
other person?
Nemesio[/b]
That is pretty wide open. When one is born naturally she may drink milk, learn to say mama and dada, eventually smile, eventually crawl, eventually walk, eventually learn to speak and speak well, evenually serve, labor, marry, bear responsibility.
"What does a person do when Christ in inpsires their heart?" is hard to answer in 25 words or less because it is wide open what a person may do in life.
In my case, I remember these few things which I began either immediately or soon to do:
1.) I had to tell somebody what I experienced
2.) I longed to be with others who had the same experience
3.) My attitudes began to change about myself and about other people.
4.) I eventually had a hunger to serve God with my whole life.
5.) I had a hunger to read and know the word of God.
6.) Old habits began to drop off
7.) Old enjoyments began to be replaced by new enjoyments.
8.) Ever encreasing sensativity of the conscience alerting me to what was displeasing to God.
9.) Ever encreasing to live in the presence of God, even unconsciouosly. Refer to Brother Lawrence's Book "The Practice of the Presence of God"
10.) Deepening Peace, Deepening Forgiveness, Deepening Love, Deepening Praise and Thanksgiving. Deepening Endurance through trials and Longsuffering in pressing circumstances.
Now this process is a cycle that repeats again and again throughout my whole Christian life. I still am immature in many areas. He is still growing in me. Even Paul said that he was still stretching forward to the things which were before him, and forgetting the things which were behind him.
You are talking about LIFE. Life is a large matter. Spiritual life is a large matter. So when you ask "What does a person do whose heart is inspired by the indwelling of Christ?" That is a very open ended question.
Originally posted by jaywillNow we are getting somewhere.
10.) Deepening Peace, Deepening Forgiveness, Deepening Love, Deepening Praise and Thanksgiving. Deepening Endurance through trials and Longsuffering in pressing circumstances.
So these are characteristics which point to someone who is born again, right?
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioIf growth is normal. Yes.
Now we are getting somewhere.
So these are characteristics which point to someone who is born again, right?
Nemesio
In my case when I realized that growth was a stuggle, I asked God to place me with Christians who could help me to grow.
That was one of the single most important things I ever asked God to do which He abundantly answered.
Originally posted by jaywillDo you think a Buddhist can demonstrate: Peace, Forgiveness, Love,
If growth is normal. Yes.
In my case when I realized that growth was a stuggle, I asked God to place me with Christians who could help me to grow.
That was one of the single most important things I ever asked God to do which He abundantly answered.
Praise and Thanksgiving, Endurance, and Longsuffering?
Nemesio
THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND THE TARES
"Another parable He set before them, saying, The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man sowing good seed in his field. But while the men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares in the midst of the wheat and went away.
And when the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the tares appeared also. And the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Were then did the tares come from?
And he said to them, An enemy has done this. And the slaves said to him, Do you want us then to go and collect them? But he said, No lest while collecting the tares, you uproot the wheat along with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Collect first the tares and bind them into bundles to burn them up, but the wheat gather into my barn." (Matthew 13:24-30).
THE EXPLANATION PROVIDED BY CHRIST
"Then, leaving the crowds, He went into the house, And His disciples came to Him, saying, Make the parable of the tares of the field clear to us.
And He answered and said, He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man; And the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; And the enemy who sowed them is the devil; and the harvest is the consummation of the age; and the reapers are angels.
Therefore just as the tares are collected and burned up with fire, so will it be at the consummation of the age. The Son of Man will send His angels, and they will collect out of His kingdom all the stumblingblocks and those who practice lawlessness. And will cast them into the furnace of fire. In that place there will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear." (Matthew 13:36-43).