Originally posted by Rajk999I haven't heard you speak up and give YOUR denomination yet. What's the matter--no "guts"? Lutherans are not Paul haters--there are several denoms that love to take ol' Paul down. He wasn't perfect, and I sure wouldn't have wanted to work with him, but he's still the apostle to the Gentiles in most mainstream protestant churches. So, whatever you are, I think you're a minority. I'm guessing Jehovah's Witness, right?
Likewise you should have the guts to admit that you are part of the apostacy foretold by Paul. Its a simple matter really ... see if you can follow me. The concept of Trinity and terms like 'God the Son' etc, did not exist in the Bible but was brought into doctrine in the 5th century. If Christ or Paul wanted that to be doctrine it would be abundantly clear. ...[text shortened]... making up doctrine or confusing religious culture with doctrine. Either one should be avoided.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, ye got yer main ones that are all basically okay: Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterians,Lutherans,Episcopalians, Wesleyans, The Unity Church (even though they don't observe Communion), Greek Orthodox, Catholics (yeah, they have some weird traditions but they got the main things down--Trinity, Christ is the only way to salvation...), and there's probably a lot of others I don't know. But anything that takes away from the deity of Christ is a dealbreaker, and if the doctrine claim that one can get to heaven without Jesus, that's another hole in the soul.
and which denominations are true and which are untrue?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou don't know what or whom I worship because you don't even know whom you worship, but I'll give you a clue: God.
in other words, you worship the creation, rather than the creator!
He is the image of the invisible God, [b]the firstborn of all creation - Colossians 1:15[/b]
Originally posted by PinkFloydFor the most part that is correct. I don't personally have a problem with some instruments as long as the singing doesn't sound like "Stryper" or some other "Christian Rock", that one can usually hear in those 'mega-churches that preach "feel-good religion". IMHO, that is religious noise.
I had a gf who was a member of a CoC. I went with her once and thought I saw lots of electronic equipment, speakers, guitars, etc. But since then, I've been told Church of Christ doesn't believe in using musical instruments in their services. True?
We resort to Acappella, and I like to hear good singing, especially from the ladies.
Originally posted by dystoniacwrong, i know who you worship, Jesus Christ, a created being, deny it if you will! you are a worshiper of the creation, not the creator!
You don't know what or whom I worship because you don't even know whom you worship, but I'll give you a clue: God.
Originally posted by dystoniacAs i have said before, I am a human being, now, would you like to tell the forum, where in scripture Christ is referred to as Almighty God, please it should be easy, should it not?
God IS almighty; that's why He sent His Son to die for the remission of our sins. Since you worship only God, you must be a
closet-muslim, yes?
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Originally posted by PinkFloydsearch as I may, i cannot find any reference, to any of these in scripture, no not even one!!!! why is that?
Well, ye got yer main ones that are all basically okay: Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterians,Lutherans,Episcopalians, Wesleyans, The Unity Church (even though they don't observe Communion), Greek Orthodox, Catholics (yeah, they have some weird traditions but they got the main things down--Trinity, Christ is the only way to salvation...), and there's probably he doctrine claim that one can get to heaven without Jesus, that's another hole in the soul.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus Christ is Lord! Jesus was God in the flesh! The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit all comprise God. There is only one God! i worship God. Need I say more?
wrong, i know who you worship, Jesus Christ, a created being, deny it if you will! you are a worshiper of the creation, not the creator!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIs Jesus Christ a man, or is he God?
As i have said before, I am a human being, now, would you like to tell the forum, where in scripture Christ is referred to as Almighty God, please it should be easy, should it not?
Jesus Christ is most definitely God. He created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, in his image. He is the Creator of the universe. The Bible says, “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made” (John 1:3). This includes all the stars, all the original animals and plants, and even the angels (Colossians 1:15-17).
It is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed.
Jesus proved that he is God by doing many things that only God could do. These are called miracles. He made dead people alive. He walked across a great lake. He made blind eyes see perfectly again. He healed deadly diseases with a word.
The exciting truth is that Jesus is now also a man, and will remain so for all eternity. He humbled himself to become like one of his own creations. He chose to become a man to help us in an extremely important way. This amazing event happened about 2-thousand years ago. The results have changed the world forever.
The part of God that is called the Holy Spirit created God's human body inside of a woman named Mary (Matthew 1:20). God went into this human body that grew inside of Mary. The baby was born and grew into a man.
At various times in the past, Jesus had appeared to people in human form. One example is when he appeared to Abraham just before the judgment of the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. But now, for the first time in history, God did not simply appear as man, he became fully human. Yet, he is still God. He is both God and man.
One huge difference between this man and every other man and woman, or boy and girl, is that Jesus was (and still is) sinless. We humans are full of sin. We sin every day. Jesus never did anything wrong, not even once. No matter what temptations came to him, he refused to sin. He has always remained pure and perfect.
Isn't it amazing to think about?! Our Creator walked among us. Like us, our Almighty God smelled the flowers and touched the animals that he had created. He loved boys and girls.
As a man, God experienced the same temptations that we feel (Hebrews 2:18). He suffered the same kind of physical pains that we suffer with. He also experienced emotional pain. He even wept about the city of Jerusalem (John 11:35). He was ignored, unappreciated, unloved, misunderstood, and even despised—even though he did nothing wrong, and always loved everyone (1 Peter 2:23). Not only is Jesus Christ the greatest man that ever lived; he is our Creator. He deserved all glory and honor!
I am sure that you have heard what people did to him. It was horribly painful and terribly unjust.
He had the power to stop their torture and taunting at any time. His power is awesome beyond anything we can understand. Yet, he did not defend himself. He let himself be like a perfect, innocent little lamb that hurt no one, and was sacrificed for the sins of the people.
He did this for us, because he loves us. Only he could pay the price for our sins. Only he could save us from the punishment we deserve. He suffered for us (1 Peter 2:21; 3:18; 4:1).
Today, he lives in Heaven and works to help us (Romans 8:34). The Bible tells us that one day he will return to earth to become the rightful king of the entire world. That will be a most wonderful time! Finally, we will have a leader that is good and wise in every way. The earth will be filled with God's glory and justice. Life on this planet will become so much better. Even the dangerous animals will become harmless (the wolf will lie down with the lamb) (Isaiah 11:6).
Find ANSWERS to more questions from children in the KidExplorers section of ChristianAnswers.Net (KidExplorers.com)
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There, take this to your mega-church and show your preacher while Styrper warms up before the show. BTW, can gays marry in your church?...just curious. Many blessings to you.
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Originally posted by dystoniacIt is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed
Is Jesus Christ a man, or is he God?
Jesus Christ is most definitely God. He created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, in his image. He is the Creator of the universe. The Bible says, “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made” (John 1:3). This includes all the stars, all the original animals and plants, and ev before the show. BTW, can gays marry in your church?...just curious. Many blessings to you.
perhaps you would like to explain Colossians chapter 1 verse 15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm done with you dude. Just go away......
It is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed
perhaps you would like to explain Colossians chapter 1 verse 15
[b]He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation[/b]
Originally posted by dystoniacits a public forum and I can post here if I like. you cannot answer the question because it contradicts your preconceptions. that's ok, but from this point on, i would like that you desist from terms such as heresy, false doctrine, false teachings, closet Muslim etc for it is now quite clear and obvious, that this is not the case, for why should my beliefs be termed false, heretical etc simply because you cannot substantiate yours?
I'm done with you dude. Just go away......
Originally posted by PinkFloydActually, all scripture was first written without punctuation.
This is incorrect. The ancient Greek verse has the comma exactly where common acceptence has it. Without translating every single word, and without benefit of Greek letters, I will try to explain.
In Greek, it reads .....lego, semeron.....paradeiso. "lego" means I say--the words preceding lego refer to the object of the verb (you--meaning the thief). ...[text shortened]... today you will be with me in paradise"
Thus endeth the Ancient Greek lesson for today.😀