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Are catholics christians???

Are catholics christians???

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Originally posted by Redmike
You have to take account of the person making this claim.

PrinceofOrange is clearly a supporter of the Orange Order, which originates in the occupied north of Ireland and is essentially a vehicle for anti-catholic sectarianism. You're lucky he accepts catholics as human beings.

Their tentacles extend to the West of Scotland, where PoO and I both are.

A shame to see such bigotry in a 16-year-old.
It's incredibly sad, I agree. But they start them young up those parts.

When Pres. Mc.Aleese stated a plain truth that among the divisions there, it's the Protestant children alone who are raised specifically to hate Catholics, she was quite correct.

Het-up Nazis are pretty open-minded by comparison.

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Originally posted by darvlay
That is a dreadful shame. Some of the male members of my family used to have very close ties to the Orange Order. I was very happy to hear that they turned in their sashes about six years ago.
I'm glad you're glad, Darv old boy. You never know, maybe the future might dilute the poisonous vibe a little. Here's hoping. Good man, Darv.

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I will say one final thing, though, on this topic.

Those people who have lately been spouting the nonsense that inspired Saladin to ask such a bloody ludicrous question (again, not his fault) have failed to write anything here.

Indeed, in those other threads in debates, I specifically suggested that they start a thread here to discuss their mistaken and often bigoted ideas, specifically regarding their ridiculous complaints about Catholics and the rest. I informed them there are people here who write ably, and wisely, and were well disposed to explain the long and the short of it to them. I see some of those have already contributed here. Here's to you fellows.

However, the silence of the former group here, and their disinclination to debate the topic speaks volumes.

Ciao!

SJEG

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Originally posted by sjeg
Their silence here speaks volumes to me.
Is there an Orange Book?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Is there an Orange Book?
Hi Bosse - if you're referring to the post in debates, I was joking... I was thinking of the Chairman's Little Red Book, and thinking they would probably have one of those for themselves in bright orange.

And doubtless the sods do! How are you, mate?

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Originally posted by sjeg
And doubtless the sods do! How are you, mate?
I'm in fine fettle, and you?

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Glad to hear it. Congrats on beginning the MA. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Just getting ready for a stroll around the Eternal City, so could be worse, old boy.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
Yeah, LDS are different.

I think (Roman) Catholics diverge from the majority of Christians in the fact they place so much emphasis on Mary. She is worshipped like a god in some places, which is wrong from a biblical perspective...

Jehovah's witnesses is a religion I know a little about, having being friends with a couple of them at different times in my ...[text shortened]... ith man, as time goes on. They all move away from Jesus... intentionally or ignorantly not.
1) Catholics don't diverge from the majority of Christians as you put it at all. Catholics ARE the majority of Christians.

2) The Orthodox Churches are rather fond of the Virgin too.

3) If you are talking about the veneration (not worshipping, mind) of the Virgin, it is not wrong in any sense either.

Actually, I would argue that this is one aspect that make Catholicism human. Love of the Goddess, if you put it that way, could be seen as taking over from pagan tradition. Love of the Mother, and the gift of life is probably the most natural thing in the world. Love of the figure of Mary is a beautiful, natural and human thing.

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Originally posted by sjeg
I'd say you can have an atheist Christian... why not?

Because I'd define Christian in that sense as cultural. And someone who has grown - up in a Christian country can be the staunchest atheist, but still have many Christian customs, attitudes and practices, whether he knows it or not. Would you not agree?
You can define it however you want, but that doesn't prevent it from being crap.

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There should be more DEVIL worshipping christians ,

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Originally posted by Palynka
You can define it however you want, but that doesn't prevent it from being crap.
A Portuguese fellow with anti-Christian sentiment. That's really one of the most depressing things I have heard so far today...

It's similar to Roberto Baggio, an Italian no.10 converting to Buddhism and growing a pony-tail, for Heavens' Sake. I don't suppose you're quite as gifted with the right peg, but you get my drift.

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Originally posted by sjeg
A Portuguese fellow with anti-Christian sentiment. That's really one of the most depressing things I have heard so far today...

It's similar to Roberto Baggio, an Italian no.10 converting to Buddhism and growing a pony-tail, for Heavens' Sake. I don't suppose you're quite as gifted with the right peg, but you get my drift.

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Would that make me a Christian Anti-Christian? 🙂

What anti-Christian sentiment, sjeg? Defining Christian by other means than religion is more demeaning for Christianity than saying that Christian atheists is a contradiction in terms.

Edit - I see your point, I meant that your definition was crap, not Christianity or Christians.

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Originally posted by sjeg
It's similar to Roberto Baggio, an Italian no.10 converting to Buddhism and growing a pony-tail, for Heavens' Sake. I don't suppose you're quite as gifted with the right peg, but you get my drift.
What's wrong with that? Can't Buddhists be Italian or Italians be Buddhists?