Are gays okay?

@rajk999 said
You are asking a lot of off topic questions here. How about if I start another thread ? Will you participate?

Sure, perhaps I would. But I already do spend too much time on these forums and am tied up with responses here, but perhaps.

No promises, though.

I've put effort myself into starting threads and then they were not populated with posts so I am no stranger to new thread disappointments, lol.

@galveston75 said
Who says I have homosexual friends? Could you please explain what your getting at and just get to it?

I assumed pretty much everyone has some homosexual friends. What is your "ministry" when it comes to homosexuals? If you don't have one, and you don't have any as friends who are homosexuals, what would you say to a homosexual in order to persuade him to be a heterosexual if you were in a position to attempt to "save" him from "Satan"?

@galveston75 said
Could you please explain what your getting at and just get to it?

I believe I am being very plain-spoken.

@rajk999 said
Mankind was made flawed. The idea that man was made perfect is wrong. A perfect human being cannot be tempted with evil. Yet Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation.

[i]For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasan ...[text shortened]... and was tempted because of her flawed nature. [/b]

I think you are giving Satan too much credit.

Nope sorry you are wrong. Both Adam and eve were created with perfect bodies and if they hadn't chosen to do wrong against Jehovah they would still be alive today.
So many here think they know more then the creator and want to blame all badness and everyone's crappy life on him and then blame him for creating Adam and Eve and giving them a free will. Jehovah never forces anyone to do anything against their free will.
Would you like to have that taken away from you? Would you have preferred for Jehovah to create robotic human instead that had no will and just walked around bumping into trees?
Geeez you need to think on stuff like this before you post it.

@fmf said
I believe I am being very plain-spoken.

Again whats your point with these rather silly questions? You already know my stand on all of this.

@fmf said
I assumed pretty much everyone has some homosexual friends. What is your "ministry" when it comes to homosexuals? If you don't have one, and you don't have any as friends who are homosexuals, what would you say to a homosexual in order to persuade him to be a heterosexual if you were in a position to attempt to "save" him from "Satan"?

Another error my friend. We save no one.

@galveston75 said
Nope sorry you are wrong. Both Adam and eve were created with perfect bodies and if they hadn't chosen to do wrong against Jehovah they would still be alive today.
So many here think they know more then the creator and want to blame all badness and everyone's crappy life on him and then blame him for creating Adam and Eve and giving them a free will. Jehovah never force ...[text shortened]... t walked around bumping into trees?
Geeez you need to think on stuff like this before you post it.

Im not interested in all your rantings. The fact that they sinned is a sign of a flawed personality. What does a perfect body have to do with what I said ? You need to read your bible instead of constantly quoting the Watchtower. Here is what Paul said on the subject

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (James 1:12-15 KJV)

This is exactly what happened to Adam and Eve.

@galveston75 said
Another error my friend. We save no one.

You like to sidestep questions. The question is if you come across a homosexual couple on your door to door walk abouts, what would you say to them, or would you just walk away?

@rajk999 said
Im not interested in all your rantings. The fact that they sinned is a sign of a flawed personality. What does a perfect body have to do with what I said ? You need to read your bible instead of constantly quoting the Watchtower. Here is what Paul said on the subject

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, ...[text shortened]... hed, bringeth forth death. (James 1:12-15 KJV)

This is exactly what happened to Adam and Eve.

God decides all, at least for some. Read Romans 9.

@galveston75 said
Again whats your point with these rather silly questions? You already know my stand on all of this.

How does your "stand on all of this" affect your answer to my question?

@rajk999 said
Im not interested in all your rantings. The fact that they sinned is a sign of a flawed personality. What does a perfect body have to do with what I said ? You need to read your bible instead of constantly quoting the Watchtower. Here is what Paul said on the subject

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, ...[text shortened]... hed, bringeth forth death. (James 1:12-15 KJV)

This is exactly what happened to Adam and Eve.

You are still missing the point with Adam and Eve. They choose to sin. It was not an inherited flaw or the type of sins that Jesus is covering for us all. So they were as perfect as Jehovah could create. It was their decision to sin.
Wow dude, are you seriously blaming that on Jehovah as it really sounds like that's what you are doing. If you are you better pray to him and hope he will listen to you. How foolish of you....

@galveston75 said
Another error my friend. We save no one.

Your going from door to door proselytizing is within a framework of helping people to be "saved", is it not?

@galveston75 said
Again whats your point with these rather silly questions?

It would seem I have asked a question you do not have an answer to.

@fmf said
How does your "stand on all of this" affect your answer to my question?

First how would we know? But if for some reason they offered that info we would do exactly as Jesus did and continue on talking to them hoping to share whatever points we have to share with all we meet.
Do you remember the discussion I just had about judging? Do I have the ability to read their hearts? No I don't.
So we treat everyone at their door the same and that is with respect and wanting to share our message with them.....

@galveston75 said
First how would we know? But if for some reason they offered that info we would do exactly as Jesus did and continue on talking to them hoping to share whatever points we have to share with all we meet.
Do you remember the discussion I just had about judging? Do I have the ability to read their hearts? No I don't.
So we treat everyone at their door the same and that is with respect and wanting to share our message with them.....

What would you say to a homosexual in order to persuade him to be a heterosexual? What would you say to someone in order to try to change their sexual orientation?