@fmf saidI see you attempting to escape a simple truth in God's Kingdom; in His creation, it is God who is the standard. You may think you escape that in denial of Him as if reality is only there as you recognize it, but you don't.
Do you not see that it is an illiterate string of words?
@kellyjay saidIf I thought you were communicating "a simple truth in God's Kingdom" to me, KellyJay. then I would be a Christian like you. So to suggest I am "attempting to escape" something that just so happens to appeal to your sense of justice or supernaturalism, or whatever, is just a low-grade rhetorical gimmick.
I see you attempting to escape a simple truth in God's Kingdom; in His creation, it is God who is the standard. You may think you escape that in denial of Him as if reality is only there as you recognize it, but you don't.
-Removed-I don't worry about what other people say about themselves; I'm not Jesus; if He has a relationship with Christ, it would be true because it is true of everyone who has a relationship with Christ. Not because they are unique, but because of Jesus, without Christ, we are just living our lives as we see fit.
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@fmf saidPhilippians 3:13-15
On what basis do you assert that you are NOT an OSAS Christian?
English Standard Version
Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.
The scripture is full of warnings to us about falling away; you cannot fall away if you are not there, to begin with. You cannot stop what you have not started; the thing is we are the force that grabs us and makes us do right and not wrong; love causes us to want to care, to want to do right, not some force that makes us against our will, our will yield to the love and Spirit of God.
If you recall Jesus' parable about the seed and the sower, many hear the word are glad about it, but the devil comes and takes it away, many starts but the cares and the pleasures of this life chokes them, and they fall away, then some fell on the good ground they produced fruit. You could say they were all starting at some point, but many fell away.
Matthew 24:10
And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another.
Mark 4:17
And they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately they fall away.
John 16:1
“I have said all these things to you to keep you from falling away.
Hebrews 3:12
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.
It is a most frightening thing for those that have had the Holy Spirit within to fall away.
Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
We can only come to God when God calls us and when He stops calling, we are done. I know God gives us time to repent; Peter denied the Lord and was restored. A godly sorrow caused him to cry out for forgiveness to the Lord, while Judas took his guilt upon himself and hung himself instead. When Herod had John the Baptist, Herod knew he was a godly man; he was pleased to listen to him, but he ended up cutting his head off. When Jesus was brought before Him, He asked him many questions, but Jesus didn't answer any of them; Jesus had nothing to say to Herod; what a scary place to be.
Mark 6:20
for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a righteous and holy man, and he kept him safe. When he heard him, he was greatly perplexed, and yet he heard him gladly.
@fmf saidThe door to that choice is only open while God calls; it doesn't come back once that stops.
If I thought you were communicating "a simple truth in God's Kingdom" to me, KellyJay. then I would be a Christian like you. So to suggest I am "attempting to escape" something that just so happens to appeal to your sense of justice or supernaturalism, or whatever, is just a low-grade rhetorical gimmick.
@kellyjay saidSo, can you still go to "Hell" because of your "sins" despite your faith in Jesus?
The scripture is full of warnings to us about falling away; you cannot fall away if you are not there, to begin with. You cannot stop what you have not started; the thing is we are the force that grabs us and makes us do right and not wrong; love causes us to want to care, to want to do right, not some force that makes us against our will, our will yield to the love and Spirit of God.
@kellyjay saidSo, does your faith in Jesus mean you will NOT go to "Hell" despite your "sins" past, present and future?
We can only come to God when God calls us and when He stops calling, we are done. I know God gives us time to repent; Peter denied the Lord and was restored. A godly sorrow caused him to cry out for forgiveness to the Lord, while Judas took his guilt upon himself and hung himself instead. When Herod had John the Baptist, Herod knew he was a godly man; he was pleased to liste ...[text shortened]... s, but Jesus didn't answer any of them; Jesus had nothing to say to Herod; what a scary place to be.
@rajk999 saidWhat church do I go to? You don't know any more than you can tell me why the Bible, not some church says:
99% of what you write here is church baloney and virtually nothing from the teachings of Christ.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
You boast you put others down, and you don't give credit for salvation through faith, you claim, you preach the gospel of Jesus yet, when asked to produce the scriptures for the gospel you profess, you pour out more snide remarks and produce nothing. You act as if works were the bottom line all that matters in our salvation, it is Jesus who is all that matters in our salvation; we cannot be holy without Jesus, we can't be righteous without Jesus, we cannot be pleasing to God without the Spirit of God within us, without Him we can do nothing. We get right, then the work comes, not out of obligation but love.
@fmf saidPeople are going to hear the words depart from me. I never knew you. After they tell Christ all the things, they did in His name. The devil believes and is going to Hell, you have seen all of this from me before, and you ask again. Do you think my answer will be different if you keep asking?
So, can you still go to "Hell" because of your "sins" despite your faith in Jesus?