Arrogance can be wounded...

Originally posted by RJHinds
Hallelu Yah

I rest my case.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I rest my case.

AMEN to that.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I rest my case.

Thats not the first time a "match"🙂 has been ended by RJHinds by admitting that he didn't know and wished not to learn anymore than he (thought )already knew on a subject. Very counterintuitive.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Thats not the first time a "match"🙂 has been ended by RJHinds by admitting that he didn't know and wished not to learn anymore than he (thought )already knew on a subject. Very counterintuitive.

Hallelujah AND amen to that.

🙄

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Thats not the first time a "match"🙂 has been ended by RJHinds by admitting that he didn't know and wished not to learn anymore than he (thought )already knew on a subject. Very counterintuitive.

Yet that doesn't see to stop him from making the same self admittedly flawed argument again later.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]Arrogance can be wounded...


Arrogance can be wounded, virtue can't.

Your thoughts?

.[/b]

Please ponder these related constructs (which a family member with an exceptionally high intelligence quotient presented to me

this past weekend): Can virtue, once acquired, be subsequently lost? If so, would the likely cause be reversion to arrogance?


gb

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Please ponder these related constructs (which a family member with an exceptionally high intelligence quotient presented to me

this past weekend): Can virtue, once acquired, be subsequently lost? If so, would the likely cause be reversion to arrogance?


gb

If V is virtue, not-V is not arrogance.

Not-V is everything that isn't virtue, which could include arrogance, but that is but a small part of it.

If virtue can be acquired it can be lost.
The reasons for this however are not limited to, or probably even likely to be arrogance.

Incidentally what does the high IQ of your family member got to do with anything?
Not saying a High IQ is a bad thing, just questioning the relevance.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not sure I understand. Perhaps it is the other way around.

I like that, it could be possibly so.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The Holy Bible says the fact that you are living makes you a living soul.
I don't recall it saying that you have a soul. That is just something that
is made up by some people to try to explain the relationship between
the body, soul, and spirit. The body is not a person without the spirit
of life that makes it a living soul.

It's just a book. Written by man for man. It has been edited over and over again by man for man.

Originally posted by googlefudge

If V is virtue, not-V is not arrogance.

Not-V is everything that isn't virtue, which could include arrogance, but that is but a small part of it.

If virtue can be acquired it can be lost.
The reasons for this however are not limited to, or probably even likely to be arrogance.

Incidentally what does the high IQ of your family member got to do with anything?
Not saying a High IQ is a bad thing, just questioning the relevance.

Irrelevant (even though it's in excess of 177). Noted only as a item of possible human interest.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Irrelevant (even though it's in excess of 177). Noted only as a item of possible human interest.

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One thing high IQ gets you is the ability to distinguish subtle differences in language, in general terms of course. Out of curiosity, what is the HIQ person's relationship to you?

You can lose virtue in any number of ways. Drug addiction, life threatening illness, depression, suicidal tendencies, political oppression come to me off the top of my head.

Originally posted by sonhouse
One thing high IQ gets you is the ability to distinguish subtle differences in language, in general terms of course. Out of curiosity, what is the HIQ person's relationship to you?

You can lose virtue in any number of ways. Drug addiction, life threatening illness, depression, suicidal tendencies, political oppression come to me off the top of my head.

It's a hereditary trait of Swedish genetics not to procreate. So I have no brothers or sisters, father or mother,

aunts or uncles or cousins. And, in fact, I'm my own grandpaw! IQ of the lady in my RHP Profile exceeds 160.


😉

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
It's a hereditary trait of Swedish genetics not to procreate. So I have no brothers or sisters, father or mother,

aunts or uncles or cousins. And, in fact, I'm my own grandpaw! IQ of the lady in my RHP Profile exceeds 160.


😉

In the area of my wife and her daughter. I am on the low end of the totem pole, somewhere around 140 but I don't let that get in the way of my creativity🙂

So which cloning house did you come from🙂

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Irrelevant (even though it's in excess of 177). Noted only as a item of possible human interest.

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Ok, but you should note that the way it was presented it looked like the reference to the
high IQ of the person who presented the teaser was meant to add weight to it.

Knowing a good number of exceptionally smart people, I know that they can not only be wrong, but spectacularly so,
on occasion.

Thus I usually try to ignore who is making an argument in favour of an objective assessment of its [the arguments] merits.


I still hold that virtue and arrogance are not flip sides of a coin.
And while you may not be able to be both arrogant and virtuous, you don't have to be arrogant to not be virtuous.

Virtue is a very broad concept, it applies to many things, and to be virtuous you have to 'tick all the boxes' as it were,
any one counter point and you are no-longer virtuous in all things.
Arrogance on the other hand is a very specific flaw.

Originally posted by googlefudge

Ok, but you should note that the way it was presented it looked like the reference to the
high IQ of the person who presented the teaser was meant to add weight to it.

Knowing a good number of exceptionally smart people, I know that they can not only be wrong, but spectacularly so,
on occasion.

Thus I usually try to ignore who is making a ...[text shortened]... re no-longer virtuous in all things.
Arrogance on the other hand is a very specific flaw.

"Ok, but you should note that the way it was presented it looked like the reference to the
high IQ of the person who presented the teaser was meant to add weight to it."

In your own mind only, gf. Point being made was quite capable of standing, like the farmer's milking stools, on its own three feet.


"Arrogance on the other hand is a very specific flaw."

Flaw? Would you allow "tragic flaw" at least? Let's go for clarity. Any other flaws you rank as tragic and destructive as arrogance?

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