Originally posted by galveston75But you started this thread. You are making a specific claim without substantiating it.
No I wouldn't. It is you and a couple others here who suggest that things are not worse.
So it should be you and the others who show things are not so bad and in fact are better.
Originally posted by josephwWell, for instance, yesterday I asked my 10 year old son to do a sum for me and he got it wrong. I would not cite the result of his calculation. Another case ~ we've just had an election here and we await the final count and some supporters of the candidate who seems set to lose by about 8% with 98% of the results declared, have made a claim that unless he wins [and does so by what they calculate will be a 15% margin] then they will declare the election rigged. I would not cite the calculations of that candidate's supporters in that case. Who makes a calculation can make a big difference. Who made the calculation you cited?
What difference does it make 'who' made the calculation?
Simple math. Run the numbers yourself.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieCan you answer my traffic questions? Why did you deliberately dodge them?
What about the situation for the Palestinians, is that getting better since the 1950's, gee they must be living it up on that little strip in Gaza safe in the knowledge that with every Israeli bomb things are looking up.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't know if things have gotten better for the Palestinians. Probably not. I certainly never claimed that they had if that's what you thought.
Can you answer my Palestinian questions, why did you deliberately dodge them. How have things got better and better for the Palestinians?
Now see if you can answer my traffic questions.
Originally posted by galveston75It depends if you feel everything is bad or not. If you feel everything is bad, then things are going from bad to worse.
The connection would be the subject thread and that is how things are in fact going from bad to worse.
For myself, the world seems crazy on the outside, but on the inside greater good is yet to come.
Remember, it is all in God's hands. So no matter how difficult life seems, He is still there.
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Here is an excellent talk on how things have changed over the past hundred years or so.
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_at_state.html
If you go to his gapminder.org website, you can check on a whole host of parameters.
For those who haven't got time to look at this clip, the answer to the OP is that with the exception of the "bottom billion" in the world, things have got significantly better for the bulk of the world's population over the past generation or so.
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Originally posted by galveston75And on top of that no one here has come up with any proof that things are better....... Right?
No one said that, I never said anyone said that, so the point is I never said anyone said that. Is that point now clear?
The point that seems to be missed is the tone, the attitude and the seemingly non caring theme that comes over from a few of you here whenever this subject is brought up. Instead of comments that would seem to be appropriate, like ...[text shortened]... pping point is very close if not already happening that the planet connot survive as we know it.
less sexism.
less crime.
less racism.
less homophobia.
better technology.
better healthcare.
longer lives.
better human rights.
better social care.
better food.
less hunger.
less poverty.
less war.
better education.
better medicine.
better transport.
better communication.
better scientific understanding.
better sociological understanding.
better psychological understanding.
less organised religion.
just a few off the top of my head (some cross over, some need to be split, like technology as it has list long list of its own).
Originally posted by FMFObviously someone with greater math acumen than your 10 year old son.
Well, for instance, yesterday I asked my 10 year old son to do a sum for me and he got it wrong. I would not cite the result of his calculation. Another case ~ we've just had an election here and we await the final count and some supporters of the candidate who seems set to lose by about 8% with 98% of the results declared, have made a claim that unless he wins ...[text shortened]... hat case. Who makes a calculation can make a big difference. Who made the calculation you cited?
It was years ago. I just don't recall 'who' it was, but I'm sure it was someone more honest than a politician.
Why are you having such a hard time with this?
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Originally posted by FMFhttp://www.ldolphin.org/popul.html
Well, for instance, yesterday I asked my 10 year old son to do a sum for me and he got it wrong. I would not cite the result of his calculation. Another case ~ we've just had an election here and we await the final count and some supporters of the candidate who seems set to lose by about 8% with 98% of the results declared, have made a claim that unless he wins ...[text shortened]... hat case. Who makes a calculation can make a big difference. Who made the calculation you cited?
You may find this interesting.
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Originally posted by galveston75lets make this a bit easier. as to prove these times are the best we are currently comparing now to the whole of time. so, why dont you tell us which century or period of time was the best to be alive in the last 2000 years and we will tell you why its better now.
No I wouldn't. It is you and a couple others here who suggest that things are not worse.
So it should be you and the others who show things are not so bad and in fact are better.
Originally posted by stellspalfieThere are many things that are better now than in the past. However, today if we were to have another world war, there are many more nations that have nuclear weapons. That fact along with other weapons of mass destruction is likely to make such a war much worse than we have ever had before.
lets make this a bit easier. as to prove these times are the best we are currently comparing now to the whole of time. so, why dont you tell us which century or period of time was the best to be alive in the last 2000 years and we will tell you why its better now.