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Originally posted by RJHinds
China’s Environment Goes From Bad to Worse

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-10/china-s-environment-goes-from-bad-to-worse.html
There are many problems around the world. This we can agree on.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
China’s Environment Goes From Bad to Worse
But if given a choice would you rather live in China today, or China 100 years ago?

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Originally posted by FMF
There are many problems around the world. This we can agree on.
1 Thessalonians 5:2,3
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them,..

There are many problems in the world. Always has been and always will be until God puts a stop to it.
It could be argued that things are getting better, until when? The next plague or world war? How is it getting better when in a hundred years from now not a single one of us will be here to see it?

The human race is cycling through the same patterns generation after generation. It's not getting better. Better today, worse tomorrow. Then repeat.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
But if given a choice would you rather live in China today, or China 100 years ago?
I am not that fond of Chinese food, especially, if I have to eat rice and everything with chopsticks. They seem to be more westernized today, so I might be able to pick up a hamburger at McDonald's. Therefore, I pick today.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not that fond of Chinese food, especially, if I have to eat rice and everything with chopsticks. They seem to be more westernized today, so I might be able to pick up a hamburger at McDonald's. Therefore, I pick today.
If choice of food was your only criteria then you either didn't think very hard or you are deliberately trying to avoid admitting that China is far better today than 100 years ago.
But we can at least say that you are someone who would happily ruin the environment for a hamburger.

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Originally posted by josephw
It could be argued that things are getting better, until when?
Well this debate has been about "things getting better" until now. It's odd that this has to be pointed out to you on page 22 of the thread. 🙂

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Originally posted by josephw
The human race is cycling through the same patterns generation after generation. It's not getting better. Better today, worse tomorrow. Then repeat.
Do you have any evidence ~ in terms of quality of life indicators ~ that substantiates this claim of yours?

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you have any evidence ~ in terms of quality of life indicators ~ that substantiates this claim of yours?
quality of life indicators? measured in what? Units of happiness?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
If choice of food was your only criteria then you either didn't think very hard or you are deliberately trying to avoid admitting that China is far better today than 100 years ago.
But we can at least say that you are someone who would happily ruin the environment for a hamburger.
Nobody, as yet, is trying to ban hamburgers because environmental pollution.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
quality of life indicators? measured in what? Units of happiness?
No, I am not much interested in 'happiness surveys'. I don't place any weight upon them at all in debates about quality of life indicators and the state of the world.

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Originally posted by FMF
No, I am not much interested in 'happiness surveys'. I don't place any weight upon them at all in debates about quality of life indicators and the state of the world.
If this bad to worse stuff is to be related to the last days and the coming of the Son of Man, then not everything will go from bad to worse. There is supposed to be an increase in knowledge and people will be able to travel quickly to and fro over the earth. That sounds like that is a better thing. Also the gospel of the kingdom is to be preached to all the world before the coming of the Son of Man. That also sounds like a good thing.

Then there are some things that will continue about the same as they always have, such as people being married and eating and drinking and having good times. There will also continue to be wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and natural disasters.

But the last days will come upon God's people like the birth pangs of a women in labor. The pains get closer together and with more intensity until that time of delivery comes and then there will be great tribulation.

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Originally posted by FMF
No, I am not much interested in 'happiness surveys'. I don't place any weight upon them at all in debates about quality of life indicators and the state of the world.
So whats it measured in then? Units of what?

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you have any evidence ~ in terms of quality of life indicators ~ that substantiates this claim of yours?
Quality of life indicators?

Such as food and shelter? Or better and more education for greater numbers of people? More cell phones and computers? Infrastructure?

Maybe. But I was thinking more in terms of value rather than quality. Value meaning not just more schools, but more truthful knowledge being taught as apposed to indoctrination. Value meaning not just more cell phones so people can stare at text messages and crash their car. Value meaning not just more computers so people can waste their time on social networking with strangers to the exclusion of real and meaningful relationships.

Truthfully, I don 't think it's possible to quantify whether life is getting better over time due to all the vagaries and variables associated with living.

There are just too many human beings on this planet to feed all the better things to when resources are as limited as they are. Too much greed and corruption, and imbalance of distribution. There may be pockets of improvement here and there, but billions will expire before any real quality of life will be experienced by the vast majority.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So whats it measured in then? Units of what?
Dollars man! 😉

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So whats it measured in then? Units of what?
I suggest you read through the thread again.