Can a knowledgeable Christian provide some pointers concerning this ?
If one confesses with the mouth and believes in ones heart,
what does this belief in ones heart all about?
What is the Christian supposed to do, think, act ... anything?
Brief details with some Bible references would be ideal.
I got the mjouth part. Im interested in the heart aspect of the statement
Sonship please dont clog up the thread with your ridiculously long nonsensidal monologues.
Romans1009 I heard your answer in another thread... thanks
Originally posted by @rajk999Hard to imagine that Romans1009's answer didn't fall well short of the following:
Can a knowledgeable Christian provide some pointers concerning this ?
If one confesses with the mouth and believes in ones heart,
what does this [b] belief in ones heart all about?
What is the Christian supposed to do, think, act ... anything?
Brief details with some Bible references would be ideal.
I got the mjouth part. Im interested in the h ...[text shortened]... ulously long nonsensidal monologues.
Romans1009 I heard your answer in another thread... thanks[/b]
Luke
43“For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. 44“For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. 45“The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.
Clearly a good man with the good treasure of his heart would always bring forth what is good and never bring forth what is evil. In short, he would not commit sin.
17 Feb 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneThat's a good passage. Thanks
Hard to imagine that Romans1009's answer didn't fall well short of the following:
Luke
43“For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. 44“For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. 45“The good man out o ...[text shortened]... bring forth what is good and never bring forth what is evil. In short, he would not commit sin.
-Removed-Because by and large, the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth are reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, much of what was attributed to Him is remarkably deep and quite profound. By and large, the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry is Truth.
This is not true of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around them. At best, they merely echo His words. At worst, they deviate from His words and at times substantially so.
Many of the beliefs espoused by many Christians are antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
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Originally posted by @rajk999I suspect this is why you’re asking the question and why you focus so much on good works and dismiss that God’s Holy Spirit indwells a believer and leads him or her:
Thanks you answered the question well. It's hard to imagine you are not seeing why I asked the question...
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.“
(1 Corinthians 2:14)
In short, you’re carnally minded and you’re not the only one. I don’t know the remedy other than praying to God to accept Christ into your heart and for God to give you His Holy Spirit. If that sounds like foolishness to you, re-read 1 Corinthians 2:14.
God is a Spirit and you have to relate to Him on a spiritual level.
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneAre you spiritually comfortable with 'by and large?' (You say it twice).
Because by and large, the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth are reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, much of what was attributed to Him is remarkably deep and quite profound. By and large, the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry is Truth.
This is not true of the mythology and beliefs tha ...[text shortened]... spoused by many Christians are antithetical to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
Personally, If I wasn't 'completely' convinced I had located 'truth,' I would keep looking. (I do agree however that the words attributed to Jesus are quite profound).