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@secondson said
I stand corrected.

What you said was, "Which verses indicate that the sanction of capital punishment was rescinded for crimes other than "First degree intentional homicide"?"

But with the intent you asserted in your OP I assumed you meant by "crimes other than" that you were referring to adultery and homosexuality.

Come on, be real.
I had in mind things like rape and theft. I am curious about the extent of your support for capital punishment. There is some support for the death penalty for things like treason, drug trafficking, slave trade, as well as rape [not theft]. But your belief in your God means you only support capital punishment for "first degree murder", right?


@kellyjay said
We are done. I hope you have a nice life and don’t wish you anything ill to you or yours.
Just leave my family in our home out of it in future. There is no analogy - other than a creepy one - between punishments for people who commit crines against my wife and children in our home [or anywhere else for that matter] and your belief in God punishing people [for eternity] for not believing in Jesus. Just cut it out.


@secondson said
I think "quibble" is a fair description of your posting style. 🤓🙂
Then you are not paying attention.

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@secondson said
But it's not in the Bible.
The Bible tells us, does it not, that in the end-time most of the world's population will worship the Beast? What then do we make of Rev 14:9-11:

“If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”


@ghost-of-a-duke said
The Bible tells us, does it not, that in the end-time most of the world's population will worship the Beast? What then do we make of Rev 14:9-11:

“If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fi ...[text shortened]... y or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
So many of our atrocities are done in the name of a greater good. Our greater good are always just some idiot’s idea they came up with using their own personal moral compass. Using their own world view filters, they justify themselves. When good acts with justice and mercy as only God can, truth without filters will do what is right. The end result will last through eternity, His mercy lasts forever, so does His wrath.

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What is your interpretation of the following scripture?

Revelation 14:10-11 “He also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

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Why on earth would I not like that his wrath is finite?


@dj2becker said
Why on earth would I not like that his wrath is finite?
He isn't looking at the context.


@kellyjay said
He isn't looking at the context.
When torturer god ideologues [and many biblical-izing Christians, generally] need, to serve their purposes, for it to be "the context" and not what the words say, well yeah, it's a case of 'What about the context?', of course.

And when "the context" is not convenient and they want it to be about what the words say regardless of the context, well yeah, it's then a case of 'Why ignore what the words themselves say? Citing so-called context is a cop-out.


@kellyjay said
So many of our atrocities are done in the name of a greater good. Our greater good are always just some idiot’s idea they came up with using their own personal moral compass. Using their own world view filters, they justify themselves. When good acts with justice and mercy as only God can, truth without filters will do what is right. The end result will last through eternity, His mercy lasts forever, so does His wrath.
How does that relate to the biblical passage I provided?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
How does that relate to the biblical passage I provided?
He is going to judge and His judgment will be just. How is that not addressing the passage you brought up? We live in a world setup to look at justice to be something of a cure for deeds done instead of a direct consequence for actions taken. The beast is who, the goal of that one is what?

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