Calling All Aliens

Originally posted by FMF

Would the Jesus story work for you even if it promised no eternal life and if you believed that you simply died and got buried or cremated at the end of your life?

I already answered that question in the negative.

Oh, I suppose in some humanistic way I might pretend to squeeze some benefit out of a dead and gone Son of God.

But the bases for me meeting Him was that He rose. If He is gone then I could not meet Him.

If He is gone then He is not available. Plan and simple. The Gospel is firstly that Jesus is available. For that He had to conquer death.

To be available, alive, and able to dispense Himself into millions of people simultaneously and down through the ages, He has to be God/man.

He had to be a man in order to die. He has to be God to make the effect of that death have eternal efficacy. And He has to be both God and man in order to fellowship as Jesus with millions of people who agree that they have met Him.

Originally posted by FMF
In so far as their Christian beliefs were the issue discussed or the matter at hand:I have no memories that are not positive.

But you have memories of interactions with Christians which are not positive.
IE. you frequently remind me of some unsavory exchange you had with me.

I am just wondering if all your memories of encountering people of Christian faith were good ones, at what point did they began to be sour ones ?

Is it only after you left the brotherhood for atheism then you began to be treated badly by Christians?

Originally posted by sonship
But the bases for me meeting Him was that He rose. If He is gone then I could not meet Him. If He is gone then He is not available. Plan and simple. The Gospel is firstly that Jesus is available. For that He had to conquer death.

If you had the opportunity to meet him before dying - with no eternal life - would that work for you?

Originally posted by FMF
You've watched scores of videos about malignant narcissism and they remind you of me. I see. OK. It gives me something to think about.

I said some of them reminded me of you.
Your "passive aggressive" gives me something to think about in like manner.

Not much.

Originally posted by FMF
In so far as their Christian beliefs were the issue discussed or the matter at hand:I have no memories that are not positive.

So in what way would you say your current beliefs are better than the beliefs you had as a Christian?

Originally posted by sonship
But you have memories of interactions with Christians which are not positive.
IE. you frequently remind me of some unsavory exchange you had with me.

Your unsavoury behaviour over the years has never created what I would describe as negative memories. Far from it. Your stuff about blood on my hands and causing people to get tortured by your god and your countless references to "Satan" etc. etc. ad nauseam, is all just laughable.

Originally posted by dj2becker
So in what way would you say your current beliefs are better than the beliefs you had as a Christian?

You have asked me this before - as Fetchmyjunk - and I answered it in the way I saw fit.

Originally posted by FMF
If you had the opportunity to meet him before dying - with no eternal life - would that work for you?

Did you miss something. I MET Him.

"If you had the opportunity to meet him before dying ..."

What is this. You ain't been listening. I MET Him already.
Now that part is supernatural.

Jesus can be met today. That means TODAY.

But I'll give you something a little further.
When you meet Jesus - SOMETHING within you dies already.

Originally posted by sonship
[b]I am just wondering if all your memories of encountering people of Christian faith were good ones, at what point did they began to be sour ones ? /b]

They never did begin to be sour ones.

Originally posted by FMF
Your unsavoury behaviour over the years has never created what I would describe as negative memories. Far from it. Your stuff about blood on my hands and causing people to get tortured by your god and your countless references to "Satan" etc. etc. ad nauseam, is all just laughable.

Laughable?

Oh cheer up FMF !
You're laughing sounds forced.

Did you leave the faith because of grudges, unforgiveness, offenses that you could not get over ?

Originally posted by FMF
You have asked me this before - as Fetchmyjunk - and I answered it in the way I saw fit.

As a Christian did you ever feel guilt when you told a blatant lie? Is guiltless lying one perk of your newly adopted beliefs? Or do you still feel guilty when you lie?

Originally posted by sonship
Did you miss something. I MET Him.

"If you had the opportunity to meet him before dying ..."

What is this. You ain't been listening. I MET Him already.
Now that part is supernatural.

Jesus can be met today. That means TODAY.

But I'll give you something a little further.
When you meet Jesus - SOMETHING within you dies already.

What does that mean, you've met Him already?

Originally posted by sonship
What is this. You ain't been listening. I MET Him already.
Now that part is supernatural..

Yes, I thought your whole riff about the problem you had with me using the word "supernatural" earlier was half baked.

Originally posted by dj2becker
As a Christian did you ever feel guilt when you told a blatant lie? Is guiltless lying one perk of your newly adopted beliefs? Or do you still feel guilt when you lie?

We have talked at length already - when you were posting as Fetchmyjunk - about the morality of lying.

Originally posted by FMF
They never did begin to be sour ones.

The memory of "blood on your hands" and torture and so forth don't sound too cheery.

Are you somehow ABOVE not having anything to do with someone else wanting not to come to Jesus Christ ?

Is that something that is impossible to because of your influence ?
I would not say it is something that could not happen because of mine.

If you turn out to be wrong about your Atheism, are you totally above having ever effected the belief of someone else ?