@kellyjay saidWhy is it important to assign meaning to a word that is not in the Bible and therefore a word that was not [supposedly] inspired by God?
It isn't that the word Trinity isn't in the Bible that is important but the meaning
assigned to that word.
Or is the meaning you are personally assigning to that word divinely inspired?
@fmf saidObviously the word is lost on you.
Why is it important to assign meaning to a word that is not in the Bible and therefore a word that was not [supposedly] inspired by God?
Or is the meaning you are personally assigning to that word divinely inspired?
The scriptures are clear. God is revealed in scripture as three distinct personalities in one.
It's as simple as that.
@secondson saidI know exactly why the word was conjured up hundreds of years after Jesus was executed. My comment is specifically in reply to what KellyJay said. Your "reply" is ignoring the content of what I said, and instead reciting dogma ~ which is your prerogative, of course ~ but it's ineffective.
Obviously the word is lost on you.
@secondson saidAre the words "Trinity" and "Triune God" divinely inspired, according to your way of thinking?
The scriptures are clear.
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@fmf saidOf course, frame the argument as you wish, but it won't change the truth.
I know exactly why the word was conjured up hundreds of years after Jesus was executed. My comment is specifically in reply to what KellyJay said. Your "reply" is ignoring the content of what I said, and instead reciting dogma ~ which is your prerogative, of course ~ but it's ineffective.
God is incomprehensible, and you won't find that word in the Bible either.
Yet the the scriptures are clear. God, as we know Him, is three in one, and it will take eternity to comprehend that.
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@secondson saidThat's right, the word is not in the Bible. It was coined by humans to whom, as you concede, "God is incomprehensible". The word "Trinity" is nothing more or less mundane contrivance.
God is incomprehensible, and you won't find that word in the Bible either.
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@SecondSon
Understand that to FMF it doesn't matter. Don't be surprised if he eventually tells you down the line that it doesn't matter to him anyway.
Of course by then your will have expended much time, patience, energy as if it did matter and you could help him.
He's just drawing you into a trap of his apathy. The prophet Daniel said that in the last days the Antichrist would wear out the saints. This is a tactic of the enemy to just wear down and wear out the believers.
Daniel 7:25
English Standard Version
He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
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@sonship saidAccording to your way of thinking, are the words "Trinity" and "Triune God" divinely inspired ?
@SecondSon
Understand that to FMF it doesn't matter.
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@sonship saidThis is a tactic of the enemy to just wear down and wear out the believers.
He's just drawing you into a trap of his apathy. The prophet Daniel said that in the last days the Antichrist would wear out the saints. This is a tactic of the enemy to just wear down and wear out the believers.
You once said that it gives you comfort in your Christian life to "know" that your enemies will be tortured for eternity. In the context of this, do you see me as "the enemy"?
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@sonship saidWhat "don't matter" to me are your threats about me being tortured by Jesus after I die. What does "matter" to me is the notion that such threats have a coherent moral basis.
@SecondSon
Understand that to FMF it doesn't matter. Don't be surprised if he eventually tells you down the line that it doesn't matter to him anyway.
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What "don't matter" to me are your threats about me being tortured by Jesus after I die. What does "matter" to me is the notion that such threats have a coherent moral basis.
QUOTE me - my threat to you of being tortured by Jesus after you die.
QUOTE IT.
And why should it matter if you're an ATHEIST and are so sure its all untrue ANYWAY?
And if you DO CARE, secretively, then there is NO reason why my quotation in a general way about God's judgment (ie. Rev. 20:15) has not been counter accompanied by many fold indications of His SALVATION extended to SAVE sinners ?
Your self centeredness is glaring through postured detached objectivity.
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@sonship saidYour thing about my supposed "apathy" is a gimmick and it's also a dud. The only thing I "don't care about" is the implementation of your torturer god ideology. I have nothing to fear, of course. Nobody does. However, your ideology that says it is the "perfect morality" for a supernatural being to torture people who lack belief in it is morally incoherent, so that's a matter I am interested in debating and discussing. Your new gimmick about me supposedly 'not caring' or being 'apathetic' about debate and discussion is a damp squib and obvious dodge-deflection. I wonder if you are going to trot it out ad nauseam when you seek to sidestep direct responses to the things you type?
@FMF
What "don't matter" to me are your threats about me being tortured by Jesus after I die. What does "matter" to me is the notion that such threats have a coherent moral basis.
QUOTE me - my threat to you of being tortured by Jesus after you die.
QUOTE IT.
And why should it matter if you're an ATHEIST and are so sure its all untrue ANYWAY?
...[text shortened]... tended to SAVE sinners ?
Your self centeredness is glaring through postured detached objectivity.
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@sonship saidEverything you present here is stuff that appeals to your imagination and you have absolutely no credible evidence that any of it is true. There have been no "indications" corroborating any of it. For some reason - be it psychological or anthropological, or a combination of both - you think Revelation is a book about real things. It's just stuff you personally happen to have faith in. And it's all up for debate on a forum like this. If you were posting all this stuff on a Christian website, you wouldn't hear a peep from me.
And if you DO CARE, secretively, then there is NO reason why my quotation in a general way about God's judgment (ie. Rev. 20:15) has not been counter accompanied by many fold indications of His SALVATION extended to SAVE sinners ?
Your self centeredness is glaring through postured detached objectivity.
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The only thing I "don't care about" is the implementation of your torturer god ideology.
Noted - No Quotation, Exaggerator.
You're moving back from the personal tone, aren't you?
Like I personally threatened FMF with torture.
Are you for emptying the prisons of Indonesia on the grounds that everyone incarcerated there is being tortured ?
I didn't ask if everyone there are we completely sure deserve to be. The question is since they are being tortured in discomfort, physical and emotional suffering, should all these tortured prisoners be RELEASED because of this ?