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The post that was quoted here has been removedI am a Hindu and the issue of celibate Catholic priests is not of any concern to me.
Originally posted by rwingettActually I think they might be more willing to accept birth control into the religion if they are directly affected or if they have sensible wives talking to them. As it is, we have a whole lot of people who don't have children telling everyone else to have far too many children.
They should remain celibate. The last thing the world needs is more bloody Catholics.
Originally posted by DasaDo you find yourself fighting off the women?
When a person comes to spiritual life and are submissive to spiritual instruction they are at once instructed to follow 4 religious principle or pillars of religion.
These for pillars are the foundations of the beginning of the spiritual life - and without them your spiritual life will not begin.
The 4 pillars of religion are..
1. No meat eating.
2. ...[text shortened]... ot obtain the grace of the Lord - for they are putting sex on the same level as God realization.
The post that was quoted here has been removedWhether or not celibacy is in itself a desirable religious state, I do not believe the abolition of mandatory celibacy would really redress the current vocations crisis that the Catholic Church is experiencing. In fact, there are three situations in which a married man may become a priest in the Catholic Church. First, married men of Eastern Catholic churches (in communion with the pope) are permitted to be ordained. Also, Roman Catholic men (that is, men not just 'Roman Catholic' by religion but also in terms of jurisdiction) may become Eastern Catholic and therefore be ordained. Second, ministers of Lutheran and Anglican communions who convert to Catholicism may also seek ordination even if married. Third, in extreme cases, a married person entering religious life, with the consent of the other partner to abnegate all conjugal rights, may profess religious vows and then seek ordination. Only in the third case would continence be strictly required.
Originally posted by SakeSo what is at the root of sexual abuse in all the other Churches?
Celibacy itself is the root of all sexual abuse in the catholic church.
Originally posted by karoly aczelIts only wasted if your sole aim is to remain celibate. I don't think that is the sole aim of Catholic priests (or most other people who choose to remain celibate). Even if they turned into sex maniacs after 20 years, I still don't think they would consider their 20 years of celibacy a waste.
Ceibacy is no good if you have been harbouring secret sexual thoughts. You may be celibate for 20 years, but if you are repressing then your sexual desires may still come out. So that's 20 years wasted,imo.