Originally posted by @sonshipDo you believe Muslim historians agree Jesus was executed by the Romans, or are you discounting them?
Do you always say "Who knows?" when it gets down to critical factors of history?
When most historians of all persuasions agree that Jesus was executed by the Romans, does shrugging "Who know?" somehow reinforce your wanting to be non-committal about the claims of Jesus Christ?
Originally posted by @sonshipWe have talked many times about this. I do not doubt the histriocity of Jesus. You know this full well. You are trolling. Answer my question.
When most historians of all persuasions agree that Jesus was executed by the Romans, does shrugging "Who know?" somehow reinforce your wanting to be non-committal about the claims of Jesus Christ?
Originally posted by @sonshipYou're trolling, sonship. Dishonestly. You know full well, because I have told you, that many of the people I love in this world are believers in Christ. I respect their beliefs. But you are different. You are hard to respect, sonship. You are so casually dishonest in almost every conversation. You know full well I do not find you "peculiar" because you believe in Christ. You know full well I am describing your evasion an dodging and deflections as "peculiar". But you misrepresent what I said, What I wrote is clear. People can read it. What makes you the way you are? Like another poster said, you are like a parody.
I don't believe "stuff." I know that Christ lives in me.
And it will continue to seem "peculiar" to you.
Originally posted by @sonshipIs this supposed to be any kind of answer to my question about "Christian morals"?
It is no secret that the Christian walks by faith and not by sight.
it is no secret that Christ makes His home in our hearts through faith.
Don't feel sorry for us.
Everybody will eventually trust someone.
Whether that someone will come through or not ... is the issue.
We believe that Jesus will. His track record convinces us that He will again be faithful.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI don't know that much about Muslim historians.
Do you believe Muslim historians agree Jesus was executed by the Romans, or are you discounting them?
I do know that a standard Muslim belief is that Jesus was not crucified but someone else was in His place. I think that that is what the Quran of Mohammed teaches.
Muslim teachers simply could not believe that a prophet would be crucified. So they teach, I believe, that Christ was taken up to heaven by God (he's just a good prophet to them). And someone ELSE died on that cross instead of Christ.
Do you believe that?
Originally posted by @sonshipAre you asking if i'm a practising Muslim?
I don't know that much about Muslim historians.
I do know that a standard Muslim belief is that Jesus was not crucified but someone else was in His place. I think that that is what the Quran of Mohammed teaches.
Muslim teachers simply could not believe that a prophet would be crucified. So they teach, I believe, that Christ was taken up to heaven by God ...[text shortened]... prophet to them). And someone ELSE died on that cross instead of Christ.
Do you believe that?
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNo. Just asking if you believe that historians' theory.
Are you asking if i'm a practising Muslim?
My experience is that some people like to remain non-committal either way.
When it comes to Christ, aloofness and apathy is the safest reaction of some folks.
Ie. "Everything concerning Jesus, is of no significance to me."