Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYou need to read the quote from Paul.
Yes, but you also said you were interested in what the Bible actually says.
So where does the bible clearly say some people are doomed to hell? The American school thing doesn't help us in this regard.
If you can't see it, then you are blind. Take it up with God for making you that way.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell gosh. He's hardly the only religionist here who has used this very gimmick to wriggle, is he, robbie carrobie?
yes it is and its rather pathetic that the propose of the argument is attempting to evade his content because he did not use a specific term, pathetic really. Its explicitly implied.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo such holier than thou behavior was frowned upon by the Man, no? Yet we see it everywhere, even on this blessed forum.
One would think but the disciples of Christ whom one can safely assume were part of the so called elect argued amongst themselves who was the greatest at which point Christ had to lead by example. I think their disposition changes after Pentecost and the dispensing of Holy Spirit where they seem to become much more cooperative.
Originally posted by JS357blessed forum, that's funny 😀 but yes, 'all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God', so even if you are chosen its no claim to be considered any better than your fellow human. Self righteousness is a tricky thing to avoid especially if you are right. 😵
So such holier than thou behavior was frowned upon by the Man, no? Yet we see it everywhere, even on this blessed forum.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOne of my Jewish friends says it's no blessing to be among the Chosen.
blessed forum, that's funny 😀 but yes, 'all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God', so even if you are chosen its no claim to be considered any better than your fellow human. Self righteousness is a tricky thing to avoid especially if you are right. 😵