1. Standard memberdj2becker
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    31 Oct '05 20:36
    Please pray for pastor Ferdie Flores, missionary in East Timor. He is going to be executed today by beating.

    Not sure of the other details...
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    31 Oct '05 20:42
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Please pray for pastor Ferdie Flores, missionary in East Timor. He is going to be executed today by beating.

    Not sure of the other details...
    Since he's a goner, how do you advise that we frame our prayers? Should we pray that God accepts his soul in heaven, as the Catholics do? Rather, should we pray that his tormentors die sudden and painful deaths? Should we pray that his martyrdom will transform East Timor into a Christian Kingdom?
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    31 Oct '05 20:47
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Since he's a goner, how do you advise that we frame our prayers? Should we pray that God accepts his soul in heaven, as the Catholics do? Rather, should we pray that his tormentors die sudden and painful deaths? Should we pray that his martyrdom will transform East Timor into a Christian Kingdom?
    Are you a Christian?

    If so you can pray for his family and friends. I would also pray that his death would touch the hearts of those who beat him to death.
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    31 Oct '05 20:501 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Are you a Christian?

    No.

    If so you can pray for his family and friends. I would also pray that his death would touch the hearts of those who beat him to death.

    I will do so. I abhor such violence, and I will pray that he meets his destiny with grace, and that his family finds the comfort they surely will need.
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    31 Oct '05 20:51
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    Jesus you're kidding me, right? By beating?

    What was his "crime"?
    I'm not sure. I suppose he probably told some people that Jesus loves them.
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    31 Oct '05 20:524 edits
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Please pray for pastor Ferdie Flores, missionary in East Timor. He is going to be executed today by beating.

    Not sure of the other details...
    I think this is a hoax. What sort of nation carries out execution by beating as part of a formal system of justice, and for political criminals at that? If this were true it would be all over the news. I can't find any mention of this supposed execution anywhere on the Internets.
  7. Standard memberdj2becker
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    31 Oct '05 20:53
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b]Are you a Christian?


    No.

    If so you can pray for his family and friends. I would also pray that his death would touch the hearts of those who beat him to death.

    I will do so. I abhor such violence, and I will pray that he meets his destiny with grace, and that his family finds the comfort they surely will need.[/b]
    Excuse me for asking, but whom do you plan to pray to?
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    31 Oct '05 20:571 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Excuse me for asking, but whom do you plan to pray to?
    You ask for people to pray, and then interrogate them when they agree to comply with your request? Your thread is an obvious ploy.
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    31 Oct '05 20:571 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Excuse me for asking, but whom do you plan to pray to?
    The Creator. Who else, silly?

    Just because I am fairly certain that the Creator is not a Christian, and indeed am not entirely sure that she or he is even real, does not mean that I have no one to whom I may direct my prayers.

    I've prayed all my life, first as a Catholic, then as an Evangelical, and now as a believing agnostic. I've also prayed with American Indians, Buddhists, and others. Christians do not have the monopoly on prayer. In fact, I doubt they are even as good at it as many others.
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    31 Oct '05 21:00
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I think this is a hoax. What sort of nation carries out execution by beating as part of a formal system of justice, and for political criminals at that? If this were true it would be all over the news. I can't find any mention of this supposed execution anywhere on the Internets.
    I have to agree. Execution by "beating"? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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    31 Oct '05 21:03
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    You ask for people to pray, and then interrogate them when they agree to comply with your request? Your thread is an obvious ploy.
    I had asked the Christians to pray.

    My appologies. Anyone is welcome to pray. Thank you in advance.
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    31 Oct '05 21:04
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I had asked the Christians to pray.

    My appologies. Anyone is welcome to pray. Thank you in advance.
    Do you really believe that somebody is scheduled to be beaten to death today? Has East Timor hired Mr. T as its Chief Executioner?
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    31 Oct '05 21:05
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I think this is a hoax. What sort of nation carries out execution by beating as part of a formal system of justice, and for political criminals at that? If this were true it would be all over the news. I can't find any mention of this supposed execution anywhere on the Internets.
    Yea! What Kind of nation?! The shame. The USA only beats them to death by accident during arrest or interrigation. We "Snuff" life humanely. The world should follow our example.

    I couldn't find anything but some crummy prayer page asking for donations.

    RTh
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    31 Oct '05 21:051 edit
    According to Amnesty International, East Timor abolished the Death Penalty in law and practice in 1999.
  15. Standard memberdj2becker
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    31 Oct '05 21:06
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    The Creator. Who else, silly?

    Just because I am fairly certain that the Creator is not a Christian, and indeed am not entirely sure that she or he is even real, does not mean that I have no one to whom I may direct my prayers.

    I've prayed all my life, first as a Catholic, then as an Evangelical, and now as a believing agnostic. I've also prayed with ...[text shortened]... do not have the monopoly on prayer. In fact, I doubt they are even as good at it as many others.
    I appologise for hurting your feelings. I am sure God will hear an earnest prayer.
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