1. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Aug '17 10:14
    Unaided by god?
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    24 Aug '17 10:16
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Unaided by god?
    A rhetorical question, surely?
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    24 Aug '17 10:21
    Could our lives just be a butterfly's dream?
  4. Standard memberKellyJay
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    24 Aug '17 10:23
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Unaided by god?
    What was written, and how over time?
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    24 Aug '17 10:28
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Could our lives just be a butterfly's dream?
    No.
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    24 Aug '17 10:32
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    No.
    Actually the answer is yes.
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    24 Aug '17 14:351 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Actually the answer is yes.
    Sure, but only to you.

    (Go ahead though and present your evidence that a butterfly can not only dream, but also has the mental capacity to dream something as complicated as existence).
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    24 Aug '17 15:38
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Unaided by god?
    Written by men, relying on their perception of a creator.
  9. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Aug '17 16:13
    Originally posted by @handyandy
    Written by men, relying on their perception of a creator.
    That works for me🙂 A few shrooms in the desert, instant deity....
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    24 Aug '17 17:07
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    That works for me🙂 A few shrooms in the desert, instant deity....
    So written in I believe three different languages, by forty different people with different backgrounds, over 1500 years, and you think a few shrooms is all that is required?
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    24 Aug '17 19:46
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    So written in I believe three different languages, by forty different people with different backgrounds, over 1500 years, and you think a few shrooms is all that is required?
    What is required is the realization that humans are very creative, even thousands of years ago, for instance, it was just found cuniform math from Southern Iraq showed they knew Pythagorian math, triangles and such 1000 years before such developments in Greece.

    Just saying humans are plenty intellegent and creative enough to have written all the religious texts on the entire planet for the last 10,000 years which of course would predate the creationist dates of minus 4004 and 3:32 pm as the age of the Universe and Earth. Gobekli tepe has been dated 6000 years older than the pyramids, an amazing find. All kinds of oddities about that place.
  12. Standard memberKellyJay
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    24 Aug '17 19:53
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    What is required is the realization that humans are very creative, even thousands of years ago, for instance, it was just found cuniform math from Southern Iraq showed they knew Pythagorian math, triangles and such 1000 years before such developments in Greece.

    Just saying humans are plenty intellegent and creative enough to have written all the religi ...[text shortened]... ted 6000 years older than the pyramids, an amazing find. All kinds of oddities about that place.
    Common knowledge is not the same thing as a common theme throughout history binding together those that didn't know each other.
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    24 Aug '17 20:10
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Unaided by god?
    No. without gods there would be no fairy tales.
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    As important are the tasks of translation and how it was decided that this writing is to be included in the holy bible and that one isn't.
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    24 Aug '17 20:53
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Common knowledge is not the same thing as a common theme throughout history binding together those that didn't know each other.
    I am not talking about common knowledge, I am talking about creativity, the ability to write pertinent laws and mores and such one their own. I think humans fully capable of doing just that. Why would you think otherwise?
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