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Originally posted by @fmf
You either view me as a follower of "Satan" or you don’t, sonship.
If he did why would he tell you?


Originally posted by @sonship
If I start writing how much are you going to carefully read through ?
I will read whatever you write.


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Originally posted by @sonship
If I start writing how much are you going to carefully read through ?
Yes, sonship. I will read whatever you write.

And it's been over 100 hours since I accepted your condition.



FMF,

The subject of "child of Satan" is SO negative.
I wish the subject matter could be approached from a positive angle, ie. being saved from being a "child of Satan".

It is a very negative toned thread subject. When I consider writing something which you said you would read ( I requested carefully read) the overall negativity of it bothers me.

As Christian I want to more write about the victory of Christ.
My emphasis, if I did discuss this "child of Satan" matter would be from the good-news angle of Christ's making sons of disobedience sons of God.

This brings me to another point. Often inquisitive posters here seem to want to talk about something along the line of "Well, How Bad Am I ?"

Does it make some sense to you that after awhile a Christian like me wants more to talk about "How Great Jesus Christ IS" a bit more than "How Awful You Are" or even "Just How Bad We Are"

Some black backround is necessary against which we can see the light of God and His salvation. But I am not the type to overly dwell on talking about how BAD people are. This often carries an implication in people's minds that they are being told to "DO BETTER" in a kind of Self Improvement program.

Right? Everybody knows that to be a Christian is to Self Improve yourself. Right ?
No. This is not too right.

What is more effective is appreciation of Christ.
And then more appreciation of Christ.
And then more and deeper appreciation of Jesus Christ.
What Jesus DID. What Jesus IS. What Jesus can BE for me.
What Jesus can BE for all those who come to Him.

So if I find some more positive way to discuss this fallen man's relationship with Satan, from the angle of Christ's wonderful salvation, then maybe you'll find me sometime writing something along the lines asked.


Originally posted by @sonship
FMF,

The subject of "child of Satan" is SO negative.
I wish the subject matter could be approached from a positive angle, ie. being saved from being a "child of Satan".
"Child of Satan" is Eladar's epithet/catchphrase.

You know full well that I haven't suggested that you call people "Children of Satan". I assume you are trying to blur who says what and who bangs on about what here. It won't wash.

If you want to tackle someone for calling people - Christians especially - "Children of Satan" - for being "SO negative" - then tackle Eladar. He says it constantly and has said it to almost every single Christian, repeatedly.


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Originally posted by @sonship
So if I find some more positive way to discuss this fallen man's relationship with Satan, from the angle of Christ's wonderful salvation, then maybe you'll find me sometime writing something along the lines asked.
Well, I have read thousands of your posts and I have addressed thousands of posts to you. I think your ideology is morally incoherent fantastical nonsense. So does that make me one of those followers of "Satan" you often mention?

If I sincerely and honestly find your portentous talk of revenge, wrath and torment to be far-fetched, and I do not believe it, do you then think that "the Devil" is my leader, a relationship between non-believers and your "Devil" figure that you have mentioned many times?

Do you think I am doing "Satan's" work when I come out with my "sick and diseased questioning" in reply to the claims you make here about reality?

Do you support or condemn the "work" I do here in this marketplace of ideas, or do you believe that I am a member or a follower of "Satan's rebellion", a rebellion you have mentioned many times and which you presumably believe involves real people?


Originally posted by @sonship
This brings me to another point. Often inquisitive posters here seem to want to talk about something along the line of "Well, How Bad Am I ?"
You actually believe that non-Christians/non-believers here in this community are concerned about how "bad" you think they are?


Originally posted by @fmf
You actually believe that non-Christians/non-believers here in this community are concerned about how "bad" you think they are?
You certainly seem to care 😉


Originally posted by @dj2becker
You certainly seem to care 😉
I am interested in the ideology that sonship propagates. If part of his self-perception, and part of his perception of his ideology, relies on him assuming that non-Christians/non-believers here are actually concerned about how "bad" he thinks they are, then that is certainly interesting.

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Originally posted by @fmf
You actually believe that non-Christians/non-believers here in this community are concerned about how "bad" you think they are?
Hey, thanks FMF for reminding me that your "interest" is probably not really genuine.
You just want more opportunity to line up your little sneering remarks. The phony objective sounding open mindedness almost had me fooled for awhile.

Thanks for reminding me not to waste any time on "helping" you to understand something that you only want to exploit with twists, warps, and sneerings.

Yes, sonship. I will read whatever you write.


Yea. Tell me about it.

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