Originally posted by @mchill
The 'concept' of God owes its very existence to Earthly wisdom and imagination.
Possibly, but I'm not convinced this is 100% true. Remember I believe we're dealing with something we cannot comprehend.
We can't comprehend a scam when it presents itself? How can you, a college educated man in century 21 believe all the abject BS in the bible as if it actually happened? Why can't you see humans (the best of us, creatively speaking) as fully capable of writing up these stories?
It is denigrating humans to suppose NO human could have written the stories in the bible. Like the flood story, where a god, who supposedly made the entire universe of trillions of stars and humans and animals and such, would be so unbalanced by the behavior of a group of humans not paying homage to this god, that it would destroy all land life on Earth to get to those 'bad' humans?
Come on, THINK. Why would a god so powerful as to be able to create an entire universe BILLIONS of light years across be so incensed at the antics of a small bunch of humans, like we are SO important we somehow think we are the only life worth the effort on this planet, where we now KNOW of thousands of other planets just in our little corner of our home galaxy and just extrapolating that where there are literally hundreds of billions of other galaxies in various stages of existence meaning there would be literally trillions of planets out there and a certain number of them will sustain life since this universe was BUILT or whatever to be able to sustain life, most anywhere in the universe where decent conditions are present like being in the goldilocks zone where there is liquid water and such.
Life looks to me like it is inevitable to develop and I for one can't see why the religious set just can't say, ok, god made the universe and gave it rules that allow life at least on SOME planets, say only one in a million but that leaves millions of other planets with life. So this god looks out on the entire universe and has literally millions of other planets to 'nurture' or whatever such a god would do, but HERE on Earth, it is so unbalanced it destroys most of its own creation just to get back at those humans whom we think are the pinnacle of creation and such.
Don't you think there is some TINY flaw in that story? This is the BIBLE, supposedly dictated by your god and humans just write down all those stories and they just so happen to be written in such a way that there is now a hierarchy of humans where the ones who wrote or were dictated to, the stories and edicts and such where THEY, the leaders get the best of everything available at the time, and the rest of humanity sucks hind tit.
Do you really think a god would set up such a system where religions are fighting to the death for thousands of years up to this very day? You don't think a god capable of creating an entire universe, we don't even know if this is the only one, perhaps there are an infinite number of such universes created by your same god and humans are SO important to this god it would set things up in such a way competing religions fight to the death? You don't think a god would know what is going on but doing NOTHING to stop it? That and a hundred other arguments says to me the whole thing is nothing but a human construct. HUMAN, not deity.
Are you so programmed you are unable to see through the BS of the bible, considering there are literally thousands of other documents just as pithy as the bible but containing totally different stories of how the universe got here, and we are supposed to believe ONLY Christianity is the true religion and all those other religions are SO false the members of those religions will die in a pain ridden eternity?
Can't you see that as just a means to control the congregation, keep them in fear their entire lives, for thousands of years till today it is a huge religion business, with multi-million dollar churches, monasteries, mosques and temples and it just so HAPPENS the leaders are inside living a nice quite life uneffected by the strife and fighting going on around the world in the name of religion.
Oh, I forgot, the religious litany is it is NEVER the religion, only bad people.
But do you think somehow this loving god of yours knows nothing about all this?
So if it knows all about it, the conclusion is, being an omniscient deity, it WANTS this all to happen and if it turns out we as a human race off ourselves in some nuclear war, that must be what your god wants, maybe it wants to clear the planet of stupid humans so something better can take our place.
So can you actually think about the things I brought up with a clear mind or will you just come back pulling the 'so now you know the mind of god' card?