Doubt good, certainty bad

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oh dear , one as ignorant of scripture as you shouldn't proffer comments upon text that
'they have never read. Look, here your doing it again, are you unaware of what the
'ancient Solomon stated, oh but thats right, you have not read that there is 'a time to
'love and a time to hate', indeed, tell the forum what Solomon meant, after all, he was
'inspired by God, was he not, and remember, do read the text before commenting upon
'it, you might learn something about the Bible in the process.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...under certain conditions and at certain times it is proper to hate. .

Are individual members like yourself authorised to decide when it is "proper" to"hate" and do so independently of your organisation? Or do are you instructed to do so by the JW organisation when the "certain conditions" are deemed to have been met?

Originally posted by FMF
I have read both. The full article is every bit as horrendous as the quotes that divegeester used to draw attention to its existence.

mere opinion, it presented a one sided perspective, and FAILED to note, that we do not
emanate hatred towards our enemies, that you should attempt to endorse this
obviously biased presentation does not reflect well on any claims you may have with
regard to objectivity FMF, you place yourself in a precarious position.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
mere opinion, it presented a one sided perspective, and FAILED to note, that we do not
emanate hatred towards our enemies, that you should attempt to endorse this
obviously biased presentation does not reflect well on any claims you may have with
regard to objectivity FMF, you place yourself in a precarious position.

OK, so you disagree with me. I get it. What about my question? Are individual JW members authorised to decide when it is "proper" to"hate" on their own?

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please read the texts that i have posted, your assertion is as ludicrous as your initial
claims. Such ignorance of the scriptures for a professed Christian is deeply disturbing,
strange that you have made no reference to any despite the fact that i have posted
upwards of fifty scriptural references.

Originally posted by FMF
OK, so you disagree with me. I get it. What about my question? Are individual JW members authorised to decide when it is "proper" to"hate" on their own?

LOL, the information is presented what an individual does with it is entirely up to them,
the brothers are not masters over our faith,

(2 Corinthians 1:24) . . .Not that we are the masters over your faith, but we are fellow
workers for your joy, for it is by your faith that you are standing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
an excellent question, for example the Pharisees of Christ's time, despite the fact that
they witnessed the miracles (a product of Holy spirit) still schemed to have the Christ
killed, thus they demonstrated a hatred towards God who sent the Christ and against
the Holy spirit which should have authenticated in their minds that Christ was indeed ...[text shortened]... ough the miracles, so in two instances they demonstrated a hatred
towards God and the spirit.

How about an example set in the context of the 21st Century.

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you haven't produced anything but biased presentations, do the scriptures state that
there is an appropriate time to hate or do they not? Lets see if you can honestly
answer that.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
How about an example set in the context of the 21st Century.

hmmm, Id need to think about that. How could someone display a hatred towards the
spirit and God, hmmm.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
LOL, the information is presented what an individual does with it is entirely up to them, the brothers are not masters over our faith, ...

So individual members of the JW organisation like yourself can define "hatred of God" yourself, independently of the JW organisation, and then "hate" those people, and this would be in accordance with JW teaching?

Originally posted by FMF
So individual members of the JW organisation like yourself can define "hatred of God" yourself, independently of the JW organisation, and then "hate" those people, and this would be in accordance with JW teaching?

Is this not what i stated, the brothers only produce literature which is Biblically based,
clearly the scriptures indicate (as per the text and definitions, scriptural references that
I posted and which seem to have been ignored) that there is an appropriate time to
display enmity and towards whom (haters of God and the spirit). What the individual
does with that knowledge is entirely up to them.