1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    16 Jul '17 13:091 edit
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
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    16 Jul '17 13:14
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
    By "walk away" do you mean 'lack belief'?
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    16 Jul '17 13:23
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
    They all go to hell, just ask rajk.
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    16 Jul '17 13:35
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    They all go to hell, just ask rajk.
    Scripture or opinion?
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    16 Jul '17 13:41
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    They all go to hell, just ask rajk.
    When will someone start a thread on hell? That would be great, wouldn't it? 😛
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    16 Jul '17 13:501 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    When will someone start a thread on hell? That would be great, wouldn't it? 😛
    Which did Jesus talk about more, Heaven or Hell?
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    16 Jul '17 14:101 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    By "walk away" do you mean 'lack belief'?
    I think he is referring to those who have believed at some point but have now given up.
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    16 Jul '17 14:35
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
    This for me is a fascinating scripture and one I believe we see misinterpreted and played out wrongly in here all the time, and also in real life.

    The key here about being hated by all men is the "for my name's sake". The hatred comes through standing for the name of Jesus, or for being an annoying religious Christian person on the internet which seem here think is the same thing. A classic case in hand would be the JWs who LOVE to be persecuted because they feel the persecution legitimises their claims that they are the chosen ones.

    Being challenged on the internet because of your religious beliefs is not persecution and more than the JWs getting grief because they annoy people on their doorsteps or are pompous on the internet, it not persecution either.

    "Persecuted for my name's sake"
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    16 Jul '17 14:40
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
    Jesus will judge all people. Read this. Maybe his part of your Bible is missing.

    When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

    And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:
    I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    Naked, and ye clothed me:
    I was sick, and ye visited me:
    I was in prison, and ye came unto me.


    Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat:
    I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me not in:
    naked, and ye clothed me not:
    sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.


    Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
    (Matthew 25:31-46 KJV)
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    16 Jul '17 15:06
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Matthew 10:22
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    What happens to those that walk away?
    They end up in the same situation as those who never believed.
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    16 Jul '17 15:07
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I think he is referring to those who have believed at some point but have now given up.
    Those who 'walk away' are those who walk away from the message Jesus delivered.

    As I told you before, John tells us that "many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more” not because they had doubts about him being the anticipated prophet, but because they simply didn't understand or believe what Jesus was telling them.

    "But there are some of you who do not believe." - Belief to Jesus meant believing in his message.
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    16 Jul '17 15:09
    Originally posted by Eladar
    They end up in the same situation as those who never believed.
    Actually you are wrong. Do you have a reference for that?
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    16 Jul '17 15:11
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    Those who 'walk away' are those who walk away from the message Jesus delivered.

    As I told you before, John tells us that "many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more” not because they had doubts about him being the anticipated prophet, but because they simply didn't understand or believe what Jesus was telling them.

    "But there are some of you who do not believe." - Belief to Jesus meant believing in his message.
    Exactly, walking away is demonstrated by disobeying the commandments of Christ.

    Many Christians have another definition which is unbiblical and false.
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    16 Jul '17 15:15
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Actually you are wrong. Do you have a reference for that?
    Actually I am right. See the op.
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    16 Jul '17 15:20
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Actually I am right. See the op.
    Those who walk away are in a worse off position compared with those who did not believe in the first place.

    They are worse off, not the same as.
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