Enlightenment

Originally posted by rwingett
All social suffering is caused by private property. It is mankind's original sin. The longing to 'own' things to the exclusion of everyone else is both the root cause of suffering and the fuel that feeds it. The only way to transcend suffering is to renounce private property and the acquisitive greed that it fosters. Nothing belongs to you and nothing can b ...[text shortened]... common treasury of All. Now each square mile is surrounded by a Wall. (needs a little work).

Are you saying that you have no private property or that you are simply a willful sinner and hypocrite?

Originally posted by whodey
Are you saying that you have no private property or that you are simply a willful sinner and hypocrite?

Why are you so tiresome? We do not live in a propertyless society, in case you hadn't noticed. Giving my money away doesn't change that. But if society (in Michigan at least) were in the process of switching over, I would join that process.

Originally posted by rwingett
Why are you so tiresome? We do not live in a propertyless society, in case you hadn't noticed. Giving my money away doesn't change that. But if society (in Michigan at least) were in the process of switching over, I would join that process.

Society is stopping you? What about a commune?

Originally posted by whodey
Society is stopping you? What about a commune?

I've done that.

Originally posted by rwingett
Why are you so tiresome? We do not live in a propertyless society, in case you hadn't noticed. Giving my money away doesn't change that. But if society (in Michigan at least) were in the process of switching over, I would join that process.

If the Kingdom is ever going to come to Michigan, someone must lay the first brick in the foundation. 🙂

Originally posted by SwissGambit
If the Kingdom is ever going to come to Michigan, someone must lay the first brick in the foundation. 🙂

The process will be more oblique than you seem to anticipate. For most people it will consist of many incremental steps. The laying of bricks, when it comes to that, will be the easy part. The hard part will consist of fundamentally altering people's perception of what constitutes an acceptable society.

Originally posted by rwingett
The hard part will consist of fundamentally altering people's perception of what constitutes an acceptable society.

It will be hard, of course, seeing as they will probably - like you - simply return to and embrace the real world after they've given living in a communal arrangement a try "for a year".

Originally posted by FMF
It will be hard, of course, seeing as they will probably - like you - simply return to and embrace the real world after they've given living in a communal arrangement a try "for a year".

As long as they carry the true faith with them and realize that all their subsequent actions should be inclined toward the actualization of the Kingdom.

It actually might be preferable that they go to the mountaintop for just a year, to waken their deadened senses from their long subjugation to the dictates of mammon. Morally rejuvenated, they can then come back down and preach the gospel with the conviction of one who has glimpsed the promised land.

Originally posted by rwingett
The process will be more oblique than you seem to anticipate. For most people it will consist of many incremental steps. The laying of bricks, when it comes to that, will be the easy part. The hard part will consist of fundamentally altering people's perception of what constitutes an acceptable society.

So the "sinners" will change in incremental steps and achieve perfection?

My view is that you either walk in the truth in the here and now or the truth you claim to have is a lie.

Originally posted by whodey
So the "sinners" will change in incremental steps and achieve perfection?

My view is that you either walk in the truth in the here and now or the truth you claim to have is a lie.

To walk in truth, it is not necessary to have one's mailing address there. The truth, primarily, is a state of mind. A realization that you are not a slave to the world of mammon, that it has no hold over you. That truth is the unshakable foundation upon which the mere physical structure of the Kingdom shall be built.

Originally posted by rwingett
The process will be more oblique than you seem to anticipate. For most people it will consist of many incremental steps. The laying of bricks, when it comes to that, will be the easy part. The hard part will consist of fundamentally altering people's perception of what constitutes an acceptable society.

the hardest part will be convincing those who have it all to let it go. jesus had this same fundamental problem. his "solution" consists of raising an army and waging war on them.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
No, you own your home before foreclosure:

www.dictionary.com
[b]Foreclose
1. Law . a.
to deprive (a mortgagor or pledgor) of the right to redeem his or her property, especially on failure to make payment on a mortgage when due, ownership of property then passing to the mortgagee.

Repossession isn't a synonym for foreclosure. ...[text shortened]... e terms; just you. By your standard of 'really own', no one 'really owns' anything.[/b]

those are legal formalities, stewardship is defined as "ownership" and it does confuse people, this thread is evidence of that.

if anyone can take your property away from you, you don't own it. it's as simple as that.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
the hardest part will be convincing those who have it all to let it go. jesus had this same fundamental problem. his "solution" consists of raising an army and waging war on them.

Jesus walked the walk all the way to the cross. He now has followers.

Nuff said.

Originally posted by rwingett
To walk in truth, it is not necessary to have one's mailing address there. The truth, primarily, is a state of mind. A realization that you are not a slave to the world of mammon, that it has no hold over you. That truth is the unshakable foundation upon which the mere physical structure of the Kingdom shall be built.

(As he types on his OWN computer in his OWN house blah, blah blah)

Too bad communes are such a horrible existence, maybe you woud still be in one.

Its like Obamacare. If it is sooo great, why did Congress opt out?

It's the same old story. Collectivism is hyped up but no one wants to walk the walk because people wind up in misery.