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Originally posted by FMF
It's a reference to the things he has stated on a public forum about the state of the world, about the human condition, and about what he says he "can't wait for". I am unaware of there being a more negative and pessimistic contributor on RHP on this issue.

It is what it is FMF.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am sorry FMF, you termed Galveston the most negative and pessimistic contributor on RHP, that is a reference to his character.

Galveston chooses to believe this story in the bible. That he thinks that that your god has this fate in store for billions of people who live good lives ( certainly as good as your JTs) can only be seen as very negative. If I had a god whom I believed in, I would hope he would be a fairer than that.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
It is what it is FMF.

Indeed. And "it" is neither "character assassination" nor an "attack on personality", no matter how many times you repeat it.

Originally posted by deenny
Galveston chooses to believe this story in the bible. That he thinks that that your god has this fate in store for billions of people who live good lives ( certainly as good as your JTs) can only be seen as very negative. If I had a god whom I believed in, I would hope he would be a fairer than that.

Good is a relative term, interesting as it is, Jesus stated that no one is good, yet you say millions of people are good, why the disparity? could it be that you and he have differing opinions on what the term, 'good', actually means? It also appears to me that you know little about what you have termed a 'story', for if you did, you would not have put forth the erroneous proposition that millions of good people risk being victims of Gods wrath on the basis of whether they are 'good', or otherwise, a common misconception of those who know next to nothing about the Bible and yet seem to make the most grandiose claims regarding its contents, to say the least. Please consider the following verses, you may find it educational as to what the Bible actually does say. I have already demonstrated that two views of exactly the same scenario may be evaluated as positive or negative depending on the relative position of the persons involved, I will not do so again.

(Mark 10:17, 18) And as he was going out on his way, a certain man ran up and fell upon his knees before him and put the question to him: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

Why does Jesus state that no one is good except God?

(Matthew 24:36-39) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

Please note that persons were victims not on the basis of whether they were good or otherwise, but on the basis of whether they took note.

Originally posted by FMF
Indeed. And "it" is neither "character assassination" nor an "attack on personality", no matter how many times you repeat it.

I disagree.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
It also appears to me that you know little about what you have termed a 'story', for if you did, you would not have put forth the erroneous proposition that millions of good people risk being victims of Gods wrath on the basis of whether they are 'good', or otherwise, a common misconception of those who know next to nothing about the Bible and yet seem to make the most grandiose claims regarding its contents, to say the least.

The Watchtower magazine in 1993 said: "There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." So when you say that the "proposition that millions of good people risk being victims of Gods wrath" is "erroneous", do you mean the figure is, in fact "billions" and not "millions"?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Good is a relative term, interesting as it is, Jesus stated that no one is good, yet you say millions of people are good, why the disparity? could it be that you and he have differing opinions on what the term, 'good', actually means? It also appears to me that you know little about what you have termed a 'story', for if you did, you would not have p basis of whether they were good or otherwise, but on the basis of whether they took note.

To me when I see something that seems nonsense in the bible, I consider the possibility that it is nonsense. I have certainly known people who I would consider good people and if in doing so I disagree with Jesus of the bible, so be it.
Your last sentence about whether they took note sums up everything I have being trying to say. Do you not read this and see that the god you have invented is a load of ******. What about the billions (or millions) who are not aware of the message in you bible

Originally posted by deenny
What about the billions (or millions) who are not aware of the message in you bible

"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." The Watchtower magazine 1989.

Originally posted by deenny
To me when I see something that seems nonsense in the bible, I consider the possibility that it is nonsense. I have certainly known people who I would consider good people and if in doing so I disagree with Jesus of the bible, so be it.
Your last sentence about whether they took note sums up everything I have being trying to say. Do you not read this and se ...[text shortened]... d of ******. What about the billions (or millions) who are not aware of the message in you bible

so lets get this, your argument amounts to this, you have used a term (good) , which you failed to define (an assumption) in a context which you know next to nothing about (ignorance of the Bible due to a lack of a balanced education) and then expect us to accept your expletives as some kind or qualifying justification for it. Dont you think you had better research your subject prior to typing, it may save you from such embarrassment in the future.

Originally posted by FMF
The Watchtower magazine in 1993 said: "There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." So when you say that the "proposition that millions of good people risk being victims of Gods ...[text shortened]... th" is "erroneous", do you mean the figure is, in fact "billions" and not "millions"?

millions or billions, its gnat straining FMF, the teaching is Biblical.

Originally posted by FMF
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." The Watchtower magazine 1989.

Indeed, perhaps you can subject the statement to falsification, Biblically? It is well understood that in all other instances of a cataclysmic episode coming upon mankind, only a relatively small number have survived, Noah and eight other people at the deluge, a small remnant at the destruction of Jerusalem at the hands of the Babylonians in 606 BCE, and again at the destruction of Jerusalem under the hand of Titus and the Romans in 70.CE, relatively few persons survived. Have you any idea FMF what the prerequisites for survival at the hand of God really are? Perhaps you can relate them to us, Biblically instead of sniping from the sides with partial quotations taken from literature published by the watchtower society? Have you even read the entire article? Will I test you and see if you have?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
millions or billions, its gnat straining FMF, the teaching is Biblical.

It's Biblical. What a defence.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
It's Biblical. What a defence.

the point is pertinent because FMF has consistently failed to acknowledge the point and instead, as in his initial fumbling attempt, tried to pin it on Galvestons personality and in a similar fashion is now citing quotations to state that it is somehow originated with the watchtower and Bible tract society of Pennsylvania incorporated. If it is not Biblical let him say so, otherwise, let him acknowledge it. No one denies that the teaching exists, but as I have proven, rather brilliantly, its a matter of perspective of whether you view it positively or otherwise.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
It's Biblical. What a defence.

ok, i see the point now, what about persons who have no knowledge of Christ, well it would hardly be fitting for a God of justice to put a persons to death without knowledge, would it, therefore all persons who died without knowledge will be resurrected and given the opportunity to learn, in what the Bible terms the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous. This is also a Biblical teaching and the question is rather elementary to be honest. That is why we are busy teaching the Good news from house to house so that persons can come to a knowledge of God and Christ.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the point is pertinent because FMF has consistently failed to acknowledge the point and instead, as in his initial fumbling attempt, tried to pin it on Galvestons personality...

I don't really care whether galveston75 gets his inspiration from bumper stickers, a dream he once had, the Bible, or from things he saw in some YouTube clips, if he tells me that world is worse than it's ever been, that there is no hope of humanity tackling its problems, and that he is waiting for a supernatural being to destroy billions of people, then I am going to call it what it is: negativity and pessimism.