Evidence please

Originally posted by @nicksten
Seriously? A written will and a written testimony (for use in court) are two different documents 🙄
Is there someone that can give an honest answer? Would be interesting to know.

You must have just edited more when I hit the reply button.

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I thought that irrespective it will still count as evidence.
But I don't know the law - thx

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I actually didn't 😞

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I wouldn't say text in the Bible or even the Bible itself can count as evidence.
But what could be seen as evidence is in my view is historical scrolls, or would you not agree with that.
And yes, the Bible is made up of those scrolls (if I can say so) but the Bible has been translated which would be considered evidence been tampered with.

I actually do not have any idea. I'd have to go and find more info.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
[b]I say that it isn’t

According to which definition of 'evidence' isn't the Bible 'evidence' of God's existence? I gave you the definition of evidence that I was going with and I told you why I believe the Bible is a 'sign or indication' of God's existence, (i.e fulfilled prophecy).You simply rejected it without even telling me what criteria you u ...[text shortened]... xistence. I think any other Christian would a agree with this. You are just trying to be obtuse.[/b]

Bump for the geester

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Bump for the geester

The above poster is reminded that he is bumping a person who has specifically requested that he not respond to his posts, and that this is a violation of the terms of service in regards to harassment.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
The above poster is reminded that he is bumping a person who has specifically requested that he not respond to his posts, and that this is a violation of the terms of service in regards to harassment.

How does this work? You are allowed to respond to my posts but I’m not allowed to respond to yours? 😴

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- there has been no evidence provided by sonship to support Jesus having actually spoken the words attributed to him (remember that sonship was demanding that another poster provide evidence that Jesus didn’t say them)

When I ask a question about evidence that Jesus didn't say what the Gospels record him to have said, I only mean where is the better weight of evidence.

Of course no one can PROVE that Christ spoke anything in Matthew. If you think certain sayings were added latter by mean people with their own agendas then we can examine that.

There is the Apocryphal and non-canonical religious literature. There are also places where textural critics notice errors that copyists made.

The people who really care about this are meticulous to catalog all the problems. If you think something in the Gospels Jesus spoke is of this nature, you should be able to put your case forward.

I just want to know if we are on the right track to believe that Jesus said something. If you think we are taking in apocryphal errors on some verses you hate - make a textural case for it.