@galveston75 saidHave you been to all the other planets to substantiate your assertion?
Perhaps you should read these scriptures to get a better understanding of what Jehovah God has done for all of mankind, including you.
As far as man is looking out into space, there is not another planet that is even close to our planet earth that could even start to keep a human alive. This planet was created perfectly for humans to live on until guess who reined it f ...[text shortened]... seem to be. Tiny little humans.....
Genesis 1:27-31; 2:7-9, 15-23; Psalm 115:16; Matthew 19:4-6
Across the universe hospitable planets almost certainly abound. Again, this idea of humans being special on a special planet positively reeks of ego.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidSuggesting you know it didn't happen that way, but cannot show how it did, doesn't?
Have you been to all the other planets to substantiate your assertion?
Across the universe hospitable plans almost certainly abound. Again, this idea of humans being special on a special planet positively reeks of ego.
Note: I have provided extraordinary proof, which is food and water, and have only been met with the theory that it's man's ego to think that God created us, and provided not just food....but delicious food in an endless variety.
It's no wonder that the "manna" provided by God in Exodus didn't go over well, because imagine if humans had to eat just manna for their entire life.
Edit: correction made. 😀
04 Jul 19
@kellyjay saidHow does that figure? - Galveston said, 'there is not another planet that is even close to our planet earth that could even start to keep a human alive.' While I said, 'hospitable planets almost certainly abound.'
Suggesting you know it didn't happen that way, but cannot show how it did, doesn't?
Which one of us is asserting something definitively?
04 Jul 19
@chaney3 saidNo sir, the whole food/water thing is an especially lame attempt at providing proof and easily rebuffed. (As it has been).
Note: I have provided extraordinary proof, which is food and water, and have only been met with the theory that it's man's ego to think that God created us, and provided not just food....but delicious food in an endless variety.
It's no wonder that the "manna" provided by God in Exodus didn't go over well, because imagine if humans had to eat just manna for their entire life.
Edit: correction made. 😀
What else you got?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidDo you just view food and water existing on earth as an enormous coincidence, due to the fact that we could not survive without them?
No sir, the whole food/water thing is an especially lame attempt at providing proof and easily rebuffed. (As it has been).
What else you got?
(Later I'll be discussing the earth, moon and sun....regarding their placements relative to each other)
04 Jul 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBoth, you can say A and not A are both something definitively stated, you disagree un-definitively?
How does that figure? - Galveston said, 'there is not another planet that is even close to our planet earth that could even start to keep a human alive.' While I said, 'hospitable planets almost certainly abound.'
Which one of us is asserting something definitively?
04 Jul 19
@chaney3 saidLook old chap, all the key elements needed to be in place for life to exist. Earth met these requirements (the right distance from the sun etc) while a planet like Saturn did not. If Earth hadn't met these requirements then we simply wouldn't be here. In that sense, yes, we were lucky. In the vastness of space (which is mind-numbingly huge) other planets too will have gotten lucky. The idea that we were the only one is just poor math.
Do you just view food and water existing on earth as an enormous coincidence, due to the fact that we could not survive without them?
(Later I'll be discussing the earth, moon and sun....regarding their placements relative to each other)
@kellyjay saidHow is 'almost certain' definitive?
Both, you can say A and not A are both something definitively stated, you disagree un-definitively?
04 Jul 19
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou have admitted to "luck", which is refreshing.
Look old chap, all the key elements needed to be in place for life to exist. Earth met these requirements (the right distance from the sun etc) while a planet like Saturn did not. If Earth hadn't met these requirements then we simply wouldn't be here. In that sense, yes, we were lucky. In the vastness of space (which is mind-numbingly huge) other planets too will have gotten lucky. The idea that we were the only one is just poor math.
I don't view it as luck, but "design", which is where we obviously disagree.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidPoor math, how much math do you use when looking at all of the things that had to be just right for this planet here to support life, not just little things either like the placement of this planet, but the make up of the universe, how it all reacts to itself? How much math is required to actually have the ability to understand anything let alone ourselves and the universe we are in? When you do the math, at what point in your understanding can you say this didn't just happen, it had to have been setup, how far away does that decimal point have be? Assuming there are more planets with life is also a grand assumption too! So saying there is only one, or there must be many more are both statements that are either true or not. I think luck had nothing to do with it, the balance in the universe and life is too good in my opinion for luck to be in play, nothing is that lucky.
Look old chap, all the key elements needed to be in place for life to exist. Earth met these requirements (the right distance from the sun etc) while a planet like Saturn did not. If Earth hadn't met these requirements then we simply wouldn't be here. In that sense, yes, we were lucky. In the vastness of space (which is mind-numbingly huge) other planets too will have gotten lucky. The idea that we were the only one is just poor math.
04 Jul 19
@kellyjay saidI just don't think you fully comprehend how massive the universe is. (And by math I refer to probability).
Poor math, how much math do you use when looking at all of the things that had to be just right for this planet here to support life, not just little things either like the placement of this planet, but the make up of the universe, how it all reacts to itself? How much math is required to actually have the ability to understand anything let alone ourselves and the universe w ...[text shortened]... ce in the universe and life is too good in my opinion for luck to be in play, nothing is that lucky.
There are about 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe! The number of stars in a galaxy varies, but assuming an average of 100 billion stars per galaxy means that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe.
https://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=3775
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou know I believe the whole thing is created, that it cannot contain God, and God knows every speck in it and how each speck in the whole relates to one another, and the whole. The size of it is massive for us, the universe shows the glory of God. Since His glory is the heavens is about everything we can grasp about it, compared to us it shows us by comparison we are but tiny blimps in the whole. Comprehension of the universes size gives us a clue how great God must be being able to do has been recorded about Him in scripture. (I believe He is quite great and real)
I just don't think you fully comprehend how massive the universe is. (And by math I refer to probability).
There are about 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe! The number of stars in a galaxy varies, but assuming an average of 100 billion stars per galaxy means that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe.
https://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=3775
Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
Jeremiah 23:24
Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord.