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And the successor to Newton was Albert Einstein who was an atheist.
Albert Einstein was more of a Deist. To the question of whether he believed in God, he said the question to such a scientist as himself was an insult.
But he did not believe in a personal God that is actively involved once creation is set in motion. His deistic belief was that a Creator was aloof.
He said the he did not believe that God played dice with the universe. So I think you are incorrect to recruit Einstein for Atheism. He was a deist like Atheist Anthony Flew decided to opt for deism from having an atheist position for all his life.
Cherrypick all you like, but you have only opinion and unsubstantiated claims for your whole belief system.
Thankyou. I will select appropriate quotations as I see the need. Nothing stops you from doing the same.
You failed to recruit Albert Einstein to your atheism cause.
Freshly picked from his quotations: [My bolding] He denies he is a Theist, but not a deist.
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.[21]
Albert Einstein's religious views have been widely studied and often misunderstood. Einstein stated that he believed in the pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. He did not believe in a personal God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings, a view which he described as naïve.
Religious and philosophical views of Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein
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Caissad4,
You've had three atheists ( I think ) step in to assist you in the question you won't answer.
Do you want to show me how YOU would reply now?
Why is my claim that God is an "extraordinary claim?"
The creation of the universe, as I see it, required:
1.) Infinite knowledge
2.) Infinite power
3.) A decision to perform creation
4.) Was "before" and transcendent TO and outside OF the universe created
@sonship saidThese supertitious assertions are just a verbose version of 'It is because it is'.
@FMFInterestingly, this has definite echoes of your own fallback position on the morally incoherent torturer god ideology you peddle. 'It is because it is'.
No it doesn't.
At the present time I have taught that if you are left in a state of perpetual separation from God, it is likely that your sins against Him will continue and increase mor ...[text shortened]... . I don't remember anyone explaining why. If they could then I would have to change my view perhaps.
@sonship saidYou're basically suggesting that people who don't subscribe to your religion deserve to be tortured for eternity after they die. It isn't a morally coherent belief or assertion. It is nothing more than an intensely partisan and self-righteous 'It is because it is' "argument".
@FMFThese supertitious assertions are just a verbose version of 'It is because it is'.
That's no rejection of the logic. That is just a lazy version of the quip "I don't believe you."
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Say you lose your faith and become an atheist before you die. What would be the moral "logic" [or moral purpose] of you still being tortured in burning flames - in secret - 600 years from now, for example? Or 3,000 years from now?
I have already been judged eternally by God on Calvary, on the cross of Jesus.
My son and I may have a tiff between us that we have trouble communicating with one another. He is still my son.
That "losing of faith" is just a temporary interruption in fellowship in the scheme of eternity. The life relationship of being regenerated cannot be undone.
I may suffer the loss of reward. I will not suffer the loss of the GIFT of eternal life.
He has a long time to bring that person around again to love and trust Him. He may do so in this age before he dies. He may do so in a next age before the age of after the millennial kingdom of 1,000 years.
"Faithful is the word:
For is we died with Him, we shall also live with Him;
If we endure, we shall also reign with Him;
If we deny Him, He also will deny us;
If we are faithless, He REMAINS faithful, for He cannot deny Himself." (2 Tim. 2:11-13)
He remains faithful. He cannot deny Himself. As to eternity you were judged already on the cross when Jesus died.
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@caissad4 saidhttps://www.icr.org/article/dinosaurs-buried-more-rapidly-than-thought/
And Theists have none, zip, zero and nada for their extraordinary claims.
https://www.icr.org/article/design-based-spider-research-creators-genius/
Getting back to the wanting proof issue, here is a start......
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@sonship saidIn the scenario I described, what would be the moral purpose of the suffering that was still being inflicted on you, for being an atheist, in secret, in [for example] 600 years from now?
@FMFSay you lose your faith and become an atheist before you die. What would be the moral "logic" [or moral purpose] of you still being tortured in burning flames - in secret - 600 years from now, for example? Or 3,000 years from now?
I have already been judged eternally by God on Calvary, on the cross of Jesus.
My son and I may have a tiff betwee ...[text shortened]... He cannot deny Himself. As to eternity you were judged already on the cross when Jesus died.
The moral purpose of eternal punishment is retribution, vengeance, that the rebel would know the truth - that He is God.
There is punishment which is remedial to secure the correction of the sinner. Eternal punishment is not remedial. It is God letting you know His hatred for sin.
This hatred He poured out on Christ the Son of God on our behalf so that we might not be the victims of His vengeance.
For the same reason Christ was crucified and cried out under God's wrath - "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me."
Every created being one way or the other will know that He is God. There will be no such thing as an exception. Whether loved and saved lost and punished - every being will know that He is God.
You do not have to redeemed and you do not have to be justified. But you do have to know in eternity that He is God.
What would be the moral purpose of the sinner eternally refusing His offer of redemption and reconciliation and justification out of His great love for the sinner?
@sonship saidIf that you what you believe then your God is evil. Your doctrine is evil. Your organisation is evil and Satanic.
The moral purpose of eternal punishment is retribution, vengeance, that the rebel would know the truth - that He is God.
There is punishment which is remedial to secure the correction of the sinner. Eternal punishment is not remedial. It is God letting you know His hatred for sin.
This hatred He poured out on Christ the Son of God on our behalf so that w ...[text shortened]... g His offer of redemption and reconciliation and justification out of His great love for the sinner?
God hates sin so much but yet Christians can sin all they like? That doctrine itself is evil and only an evil mind can concoct such unadulterated nonsense. Only an idiot would believe such a lie.
The God of Israel in which I believe, sent His Son to die for the sin brought into the world by the influence of Satan [your God apparently]. This sacrifice paved the way for all who live righteously to enter the Kingdom of God. All, not just Christians or those who profess faith with their mouth. ALL. All who live unrighteously will not be part of the Kingdom of God. They will be destroyed. the beings Satan, the False Prophet, and the Beast are the ones responsible for the sins of the world for which Christ died, those 3 will be punished for all eternity.