1. PenTesting
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    10 Aug '16 10:57
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Why did Christ die? And what does it mean for you, personally.
    I answered that question for you already.
  2. PenTesting
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    10 Aug '16 10:59
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    So tell me which words of Jesus render what Paul wrote as null and void?

    If Jesus has greater authority and he contradicts what Paul says then you may have a point. So please enlighten us.
    Did I say anything Paul wrote was rendered null and void by words of Jesus?
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    10 Aug '16 11:00
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I've be very specific in the Bible God used these guys, some even have books of the Bible
    named after them, some walked with the Lord. Do you think God's Word came to us
    through these guys or not?

    "Every word that comes from the mouth of God in your mind Rajk999 do you think that
    when Peter shared, or Paul shared, or John shared, or Moses shared, or ...[text shortened]... share His truth that some how according to
    Jesus man should not live by those Words of God's?"
    I agree with all those words. I just disagree with your interpretation.
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    10 Aug '16 11:01
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    Another tense duel! between two heated rivals furiously stroking their dicks at one another...

    Who will win, and who will get bathed? The audience waits with rapt attention. 😴
    Apparently you are doing some stroking yourself on the sidelines.
  5. R
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    10 Aug '16 15:211 edit
    It is worth repeating many times.

    Romans 5:10 very nicely divides the full salvation of God into two parts.
    Some of us refer to these two parts as:

    1.) Judicial redemption
    2.) Organic salvation.

    Here's the passage:

    "For if we, being enemies, were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more we shall be saved in His life, having been reconciled."


    1.) Judicial redemption - Man, as an fallen enemy of God born into Satan's rebellion, is reconciled legally to God through the redemptive death of Christ. Our sins are paid for with their condemnation on the cross of Jesus at Calvary.

    2.) Organic salvation - Having this legal justification being accomplished, we go ON to the subjective salvation in the realm of His indwlling divine life. We need a saving in the personality - a transformation, a conformation into His image.

    This is a saving by the life of Christ which is imparted into those who have been judicially reconciled.
  6. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    10 Aug '16 16:32
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Did I say anything Paul wrote was rendered null and void by words of Jesus?
    You obviously reject everything he said and classify it as false religion.
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    10 Aug '16 16:49
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    You obviously reject everything he said and classify it as false religion.
    Obviously?
  8. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    10 Aug '16 16:54
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Obviously?
    Yes I quoted Paul and you called it false religion.
  9. Standard memberKellyJay
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    10 Aug '16 17:40
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I agree with all those words. I just disagree with your interpretation.
    LOL, what?
    I agree with all of those words, disagree with my interpretation!?
    What does that mean? I agree with everything you said, just not what you think?
    Please, be a little clear here I cannot read your mind.
  10. PenTesting
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    10 Aug '16 18:42
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    Yes I quoted Paul and you called it false religion.
    You quoted some stuff from the Bible and called it the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Now you say you quoted Paul.

    So Im asking you if you know what Jesus Christ preached because you quoted nothing from Him.
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    10 Aug '16 18:43
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    LOL, what?
    I agree with all of those words, disagree with my interpretation!?
    What does that mean? I agree with everything you said, just not what you think?
    Please, be a little clear here I cannot read your mind.
    Which passage you quoted that you think I disagreed with. Start with one.
  12. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    10 Aug '16 18:45
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I agree with all those words. I just disagree with your interpretation.
    So what is your interpretation?
  13. PenTesting
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    10 Aug '16 18:58
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    So what is your interpretation?
    Of what?
  14. Standard memberFetchmyjunk
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    10 Aug '16 19:03
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Of what?
    You disagree with Kelly's interpretation, so how was he supposed to interpret the words you agree with?
  15. PenTesting
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    10 Aug '16 19:04
    Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
    You disagree with Kelly's interpretation, so how was he supposed to interpret the words you agree with?
    You need to be clear on what your question is.
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