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    06 Mar '18 03:52
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    You can say it 1000 times more.
    The HS was in Annanias and Sapphira, two born again Christian Saints.
    Case closed.

    Nobody says anything about doing it on their own.
    Thats just more church nonsense that they feed you with.
    And you swallow it like a hungry dog.

    All righteousness and good works come from God.
    Jesus will save good people and welcome ...[text shortened]... d more, then you will get the whole story.
    Right now your half a brain only has half a doctrine
    One is made righteous (in right standing with God) and obtains salvation by sincerely accepting Jesus Christ into one’s heart. Nothing more. That is why the thief on the cross next to Jesus obtained eternal life after he expressed faith in Christ. The thief had no time or opportunity to do good works.

    The sincere acceptance of Jesus Christ into one’s heart leads to the indwelling of God’s Holy Spirit which changes the heart of a new believer. It is this changed heart, through the power of God’s Holy Spirit, that leads to good works and an aversion to sin.

    That is why it is important for a believer to stay in God’s Word and prayer so the Spirit continually has great influence in the life of a believer.
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    06 Mar '18 03:58
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    One is made righteous (in right standing with God) and obtains salvation by sincerely accepting Jesus Christ into one’s heart. Nothing more. That is why the thief on the cross next to Jesus obtained eternal life after he expressed faith in Christ. The thief had no time or opportunity to do good works.

    The sincere acceptance of Jesus Christ into one’s ...[text shortened]... n God’s Word and prayer so the Spirit continually has great influence in the life of a believer.
    More nonsense. The thief on the cross had no holy spirit indwelling. Neither did he proclaim any faith. Neither did he know the purpose of Christ death and resurrection.

    But Jesus knew that had he lived he would has lived righteously.

    You sorry to say have both time and opportunity so beware.
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    06 Mar '18 04:29
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    More nonsense. The thief on the cross had no holy spirit indwelling. Neither did he proclaim any faith. Neither did he know the purpose of Christ death and resurrection.

    But Jesus knew that had he lived he would has lived righteously.

    You sorry to say have both time and opportunity so beware.
    God’s Holy Spirit did not begin to indwell believers until *after* Christ’s Resurrection, which obviously took place after His crucifixion.

    And the thief on the cross did proclaim faith that Christ was who He said He was.

    “And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

    But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

    And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

    And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

    And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

    (Luke 23:39-43)

    And the thief did not need to know the purpose of Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and Resurrection. The thief only needed to believe.

    Notice the importance of belief - and belief alone - in the following passage from the Gospel of Mark:

    “And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea.

    And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,

    And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.

    And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and thronged him.

    And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,

    And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

    When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.

    For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.

    And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.

    And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?

    And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

    And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.

    But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.

    And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

    While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?

    As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.

    And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.

    And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue, and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.

    And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.

    And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.

    And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.

    And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.”

    (Mark 5:21-42)

    P.S. Why are you so hostile?
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    06 Mar '18 04:42
    Verses that are consistent with the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

    1 John 3
    4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
    5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
    6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
    7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.
    8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
    9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
    10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

    “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
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    06 Mar '18 07:06
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    Verses that are consistent with the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

    1 John 3
    4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
    5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
    6 [b]No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or know ...[text shortened]... s anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

    “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”
    I think the answer to this was provided in another thread, though not by me.

    I think as Christians when we sin, we break fellowship with God, which is why when we sincerely repent and ask for forgiveness, our sins are washed away by the blood of Jesus Christ.

    In this respect, it is not unlike the Old Testament in that God informed Jews of the Mosaic law, Jews could not keep it without error, and God allowed Jews to atone for their sins (failure to keep the law) by sacrificing animals.

    For your interpretation to be correct, you would have to disregard these verses from earlier in the same epistle from John the Apostle.

    “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

    If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”

    (1 John 1:5-10)
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    06 Mar '18 07:56
    Proverbs 1009

    Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but whoever takes crooked paths will be found out.
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    06 Mar '18 08:002 edits
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Proverbs 1009

    Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but whoever takes crooked paths will be found out.
    Would you say someone is acting with integrity when they accuse someone falsely of using two accounts simultaneously?
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    06 Mar '18 08:02
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Would you say someone is acting with integrity when they accuse someone falsely of using two accounts simultaneously?
    No.
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    06 Mar '18 08:04
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Would you say someone is acting with integrity when they accuse someone falsely of using two accounts simultaneously?
    Would you say you refusing to be unequivocal in responses to questions rather than lose face was acting with integrity?
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    06 Mar '18 08:05
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    No.
    So why do you keep on accusing me of being Romans?
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    06 Mar '18 08:07
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Would you say you refusing to be unequivocal in responses to questions rather than lose face was acting with integrity?
    Yes, FMF does that all the time.
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    06 Mar '18 08:121 edit
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Yes, FMF does that all the time.
    I would say that FMF, Ghost of a Duke, JS357 and a few others of course, are the posters who display the most integrity here. You, Romans1009, and several other supposed Christians display the least.
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    06 Mar '18 08:14
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    I would say that FMF, Ghost of a Duke, JS357 and a few others of course, are the posters who display the most integrity here. You, Romans1009, and several other supposed Christians display the least.
    Well I know for a fact that you are falsely accusing me of being Romans, so I am not bothered in the least by your level of discernment and ability to judge character.
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    06 Mar '18 08:15
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Well I know for a fact that you are falsely accusing me of being Romans, so I am not bothered in the least by your level of discernment and ability to judge character.
    Well that’s fair enough, but I’m not alone in this judgment am I.
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    2 Cor 8:21

    For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man
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