@philokalia saidI haven't said that Christians can't be outstanding. But the notion that this happens because of supernatural transformation seems to me to be farfetched.
Yeah, I am at peace with the idea that people would not find evidence that Christians become outstanding.
@fmf saidYou keep saying that as if it is news, some revelation we need to be made aware of. The only thing you seem to want to do with that is marginalize views, reducing them to little bits of personal narratives, except when it comes to yours. Because you are better than some in your estimation, so your point of view carries more importance than others.
Every member of this community is sharing their opinions.
When all views are no better the next, than even your personal opinions are of no more importance than anyone else’s, even those who you hold in contempt, or concider less than. You can not be right or wrong without there being a right and wrong that we are held to, if we make up our own even if we change it whatever it is at the moment would be right for us then and there.
@kellyjay saidYour difficulty in propagating your religious ideology is that your credibility is undermined by your insistence that your perspectives on supernatural things are objective. In doing so, you appear to be placing the exhibition of your own narcissism at the very top of your Things To Do List here on this forum.
You keep saying that as if it is news, some revelation we need to be made aware of. The only thing you seem to want to do with that is marginalize views, reducing them to little bits of personal narratives, except when it comes to yours. Because you are better than some in your estimation, so your point of view carries more importance than others.
When all views are no be ...[text shortened]... e up our own even if we change it whatever it is at the moment would be right for us then and there.
@fmf saidOur points simply because we say them are just points, but what makes one more important than that next isn’t the speaker it’s the truth of the statement.
Your point of view, on a message board like this, is no more or less important than mine in terms of the sharing that's going on.
@fmf saidSo say you as you proclaim your meta-narrative.
Your difficulty in propagating your religious ideology is that your credibility is undermined by your insistence that your perspectives on supernatural things are objective. In doing so, you appear to be placing the exhibition of your own narcissism at the very top of your Things To Do List here on this forum.
@fmf saidA meta-narrative is an all encompassing narrative that holds everything together. Truth never contradicts itself so when you say things that apply to all people at all times you are making a statement of absolute truth. Not a truth that only applies to you, but everyone, if they agree with you or not. How you arrive at that assertion is it by documentation, authority, logic, whatever can be questioned. Simply making an absolute statement about some truth isn’t enough if all you have is your opinion, who are you?
What are you on about now?
@kellyjay saidThe fact that you have some personal perspectives that you refer to as a "meta-narrative" does not create any onus on anyone around you to accept it replace it with a different one.
A meta-narrative is an all encompassing narrative that holds everything together. Truth never contradicts itself so when you say things that apply to all people at all times you are making a statement of absolute truth. Not a truth that only applies to you, but everyone, if they agree with you or not. How you arrive at that assertion is it by documentation, authority, logic, ...[text shortened]... ng an absolute statement about some truth isn’t enough if all you have is your opinion, who are you?
@kellyjay saidWho has claimed "all views are no better the next"? Whose stance is this? You are making stuff up. If you believe that my opinions are of "no more importance than anyone else’s", so be it.
When all views are no better the next, than even your personal opinions are of no more importance than anyone else’s, even those who you hold in contempt, or concider less than.
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@kellyjay saidVerbiage often obscures. You don't have to explain or defend anything.
A meta-narrative is an all encompassing narrative that holds everything together. Truth never contradicts itself so when you say things that apply to all people at all times you are making a statement of absolute truth. Not a truth that only applies to you, but everyone, if they agree with you or not. How you arrive at that assertion is it by documentation, authority, logic, ...[text shortened]... ng an absolute statement about some truth isn’t enough if all you have is your opinion, who are you?
It could be said that there is One Word that we little peeps don't have ears to hear or eyes to read -- but we should (or could) still cultivate our hearing and our sight, etc.