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This is your opportunity but you are on your own KellyJay is to cowardly and the rest are clueless duckspeakers.
Trolling. instigating.
Get to work proving that Divine LOVE is eternally PERMISSIVE.
Originally posted by @sonshipHere is that "moment" sonship.
I don't always KNOW how I will answer. Jesus, if you READ your New Testament, said that there would be times when it would be given to His disciples at the moment what they should say.
Originally posted by @sonshipNot at all I'm speaking exactly precisely and honestly how I perceive the Christians in this forum who uphold the idea that torturing non believers of their version of Christianity for eternity is morally sound.
Trolling. instigating.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI don't see anything but further repetition occurring here.
Not at all I'm speaking exactly precisely and honestly how I perceive the Christians in this forum who uphold the idea that torturing non believers of their version of Christianity for eternity is morally sound.
They are cowards and duck-speakers who hide away from the grisly truth and shy away from contradiction on it.
It is a doctrine of terrorism and they are terrorists.
Originally posted by @sonshipWhat on earth are you saying? Got the balls to come back and clarify?
You have taken Nick Jagger's "Sympathy For the Devil" concept to its extreme.
Originally posted by @sonshipThis topic is never going to go away, can't you see this. This doctrine is a cloud hanging over your belief system which casts a long dreadful erroneous shadow over the entire Christian theology.
I don't see anything but further repetition occurring here.
Originally posted by @sonship to divegeesterAre you suggesting that divegeester is a follower of "Satan"?
For you the love of God should mean that Satan and his followers be able to usurp His throne and overthrow the Most High.
Originally posted by @fmfOr maybe a follower of "Nick Jagger" at least.
Are you suggesting that divegeester is a follower of "Satan"?
Originally posted by @divegeesterWhen a sinner is truly convicted of their sin by the spirit of God they feel that they deserve hell and are therefore attracted to the love of Jesus which provides them with a way of escape.
No one is asking to to explain why you believe the stuff you believe.
The OP is asking how an unbeliever can see past the eternal torturing in hell by Jesus of all the other unbelievers, to the loving Jesus.
How do you explain that? If you ever do.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou have something more than conjecture and you imagination to support this silly claim?
When a sinner is truly convicted of their sin by the spirit of God they feel that they deserve hell and are therefore attracted to the love of Jesus which provides them with a way of escape.
Originally posted by @divegeesterChristians claiming that they believe they deserve to be tortured for eternity ~ when they also believe that they are certainly "saved" from that fate, come what may ~ ought to know, deep down, that their claim that "they deserve to be tortured for eternity" does not sound credible.
You have something more than conjecture and you imagination to support this silly claim?
Originally posted by @fmfThe whole doctrine is not only incredible, it is an incoherent wall to those who may be lost and who may find the ideology of a Jesus, of a God, of a better way for mankind, so flawed that is places it’s adoption beyond reach.
Christians claiming that they believe they deserve to be tortured for eternity ~ when they also believe that they are certainly "saved" from that fate, come what may ~ ought to know, deep down, that their claim that "they deserve to be tortured for eternity" does not sound credible.
Originally posted by @divegeesterHere's the moment when you are going to show us that two divine attributes of God are mutually exclusive.
Here is that "moment" sonship.
You see yourself a teacher here, you say there are those here whom you teach and preach to who need to hear it...well here is your opportunity. Every single non-believer here in this forum is a potential student of yours.
How do they get past, see past the torturing God of Revelation to the supposedly same loving God who wants to save them from that torture?
Here's your moment...
Originally posted by @divegeesterIt was not beyond the reach of Jesus. (Luke 12:5)
The whole doctrine is not only incredible, it is an incoherent wall to those who may be lost and who may find the ideology of a Jesus, of a God, of a better way for mankind, so flawed that is places it’s adoption beyond reach.
Darby Bible Translation
But I will shew you whom ye shall fear: Fear him who after he has killed has authority to cast into hell; yea, I say to you, Fear him.
Weymouth New Testament
I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who after killing has power to throw into Gehenna: yes, I say to you, fear him.
World English Bible
But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
Young's Literal Translation
but I will show to you, whom ye may fear; Fear him who, after the killing, is having authority to cast to the gehenna; yes, I say to you, Fear ye Him.
Originally posted by @divegeesterPersonal experience.
You have something more than conjecture and you imagination to support this silly claim?