Originally posted by @kellyjayI know that Christians tell themselves they - and only they - are "forgiven". But that isn't "taking action against evil". You brought up the Nazis and concentration camps. If God supposedly forgives someone who helped to exterminate 6 million Jews because they repent and believe In Jesus with their dying breath, how is that "taking action against the evil" of the Holocaust?
We are forgiven because of the actions God took, I suppose you are still blind to that!
Originally posted by @fmfBecause we are all sinners, each and everyone of us without exception. You can look at
I know that Christians tell themselves they - and only they - are "forgiven". But that isn't "taking action against evil". You brought up the Nazis and concentration camps. If God supposedly forgives someone who helped to exterminate 6 million Jews because they repent and believe In Jesus with their dying breath, how is that "taking action against the evil" of the Holocaust?
the worst of us, compare them to the best of us, bottom line is we are all sinners. Jesus
took all the sins of the world upon Himself without exception, those we would call the
worst of us, those we would call the best of us, all of our sins. Since Jesus took them He
bore our punishment, and He cleans us of our sins, this means whatever the state of
man was before salvation has been taken care of by Jesus Christ no matter how good
or bad we were.
Do you want to lay blame on God that He has taken away all of our sins? He did this
because He loves us, not that we were something that He needed, it isn't like we are
doing Him any favors by coming to Him, He is God, He doesn't need us, but He loves us.
Do you think you should have a say in who is saved while others are not, who are you again?
Romans 8:32-34 English Standard Version (ESV)
He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with
him graciously give us all things? Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is
God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than
that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
Originally posted by @fmfThere is a place reserved for evil, and all who are wicked, you may have heard of it.
I know that Christians tell themselves they - and only they - are "forgiven". But that isn't "taking action against evil". You brought up the Nazis and concentration camps. If God supposedly forgives someone who helped to exterminate 6 million Jews because they repent and believe In Jesus with their dying breath, how is that "taking action against the evil" of the Holocaust?
That place is setup so that the eternal Kingdom will be free of such things.
Originally posted by @kellyjayI am an agnostic atheist. Mentioning my past is nothing other than you dodging, deflecting, and running away from debate and discussion. If your God "forgives" someone who gassed Jews, what action has He taken against the "evil" of the Holocaust? If your God "forgives" someone who covered up child abuse, what action has He taken against the "evil" that was done to those children?
Well if 30 years doesn't do it for you, not sure what will.
Originally posted by @fmfAnd suggesting every answer doesn't do it for you is nothing but a dodge for you too.
I am an agnostic atheist. Mentioning my past is nothing other than you dodging, deflecting, and running away from debate and discussion. If your God "forgives" someone who gassed Jews, what action has He taken against the "evil" of the Holocaust? If your God "forgives" someone who covered up child abuse, what action has He taken against the "evil" that was done to those children?
Originally posted by @fmfI answer your questions you claim not good enough, it is something you have a pattern of doing. So I am not overly concerned about disappointing you, because your always disappointed.
Your slabs of generic dogma appear to be a gimmick to sidestep the specific scrutiny I am applying to the claims you are making about the reality in which I live.
Originally posted by @kellyjayRely on your generic dogma by all means, but not to insulate yourself from the discussion; bring it to bear on the specific points I am putting to you. You seem to think your take on "God taking action against evil" adds up and makes sense - it doesn't, except perhaps to you - and I suspect this is because your own understanding of what you claim seems unexamined and is probably just as opaque - and as 'recited' - as your attempts to explain it.
I answer your questions you claim not good enough, it is something you have a pattern of doing. So I am not overly concerned about disappointing you, because your always disappointed.
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou haven't answered these questions:
I answer your questions you claim not good enough, it is something you have a pattern of doing.
If your God "forgives" someone who gassed Jews, what action has He taken against the "evil" of the Holocaust?
If your God "forgives" someone who covered up child abuse [as briefly discussed on that recent thread you bailed out of], what action has He taken against the "evil" that was done to those children?
Originally posted by @fmfOh, so you want God to crush all evil doers?
You haven't answered these questions:
If your God "forgives" someone who gassed Jews, what action has He taken against the "evil" of the Holocaust?
If your God "forgives" someone who covered up child abuse [as briefly discussed on that recent thread you bailed out of], what action has He taken against the "evil" that was done to those children?
Originally posted by @fmfI don't have a god, the One I serve has created me and you and the rest of the universe.
You haven't answered these questions:
If your God "forgives" someone who gassed Jews, what action has He taken against the "evil" of the Holocaust?
If your God "forgives" someone who covered up child abuse [as briefly discussed on that recent thread you bailed out of], what action has He taken against the "evil" that was done to those children?