1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    20 Mar '14 00:46
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    The function of human volition [the decider in our souls] chooses most
    desirable options: "decisions". Judging requires a position of responsibility
    and delegated authority. We're stalled over the meaning of a word.
    I agree; "judge" is too emotive a word, it was KellyJay who
    introduced it into the debate and it has only deflected the
    debate away from what I intended.
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    20 Mar '14 00:46
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I can't take credit for this but a friend put forward this observation.

    If you read any novel, you determine who the good guys and bad guys
    are. You make that decision based on the characters actions and deeds
    in relation to your own morality. The novel does not, for example, have
    to explicitly say "Harry Potter is a good wizard"

    Why then does the bible have to?

    Is it because god's deeds are contrary to human morality?
    My original opening post.
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    20 Mar '14 00:49
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I told you once.
    SHUT UP


    Originally posted by KellyJay
    That is supposed to mean what to me?
    Kelly
    I can't make it any simpler.
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    20 Mar '14 01:13
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I can't make it any simpler.
    You think you telling me to shut up on this thread or any other should
    matter to me? I've been answering your questions and giving you some
    questions of my own, and have not at all demanded you to shut up or to do
    anything else.

    You can make whatever demands you want, they will be ignored more times
    than not. If you ask nicely then we may get past this. In the great long and
    short of all things what is said and done here is a very little thing in our
    lives. If the worst thing that happens to us in life happens here, we are in
    great shape.

    After all we both share hurts and pains in our lives I know neither one of us
    would wish on anyone else.
    Kelly
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    20 Mar '14 01:22
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You think you telling me to shut up on this thread or any other should
    matter to me? Kelly
    You really are quite contrary! I ask you a question and you "shut up"
    I tell you to "shut up" and your fingers fly across the keyboard.

    If it doesn't matter to you, you will not mind if I repeat myself;

    SHUT UP
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    20 Mar '14 03:20
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    You really are quite contrary! I ask you a question and you "shut up"
    I tell you to "shut up" and your fingers fly across the keyboard.

    If it doesn't matter to you, you will not mind if I repeat myself;

    [b]SHUT UP
    [/b]
    Please, let me know when you wish to have an adult conversation.
    Until that time, I will shut up and will not respond to anything you say till
    you apologies. You of course may go on as you are now, or not up to you.
    Kelly
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    20 Mar '14 03:31
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I will shut up and will not respond to anything you say ...
    That's it! Commandeer the language! Own the vocabulary used against you! The homosexual community took control of the derogatory word "queer", defanged it, made it their own. African Americans did the same with the word "ni**er". Indeed they have made it their own and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE'S. Now, here you are: taking control of "shut up" and using it in your own way! The wind will be taken from wolfgang59's sails every time he uses "shut up" as you have now made it your own! 🙂
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    20 Mar '14 06:21
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Please, let me know when you wish to have an adult conversation.
    Until that time, I will shut up and will not respond to anything you say till
    you apologies [sic]. You of course may go on as you are now, or not up to you.
    Kelly
    I do wish to have an adult conversation ...

    so ....

    SHUT UP!

    btw:
    write out 100 times - apologise
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    20 Mar '14 09:41
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    wolfgang59, it is the height of arrogance for any human being to even presume to "judge" Almighty God and/or His Perfect Righteousness. Anyone who persists in thinking otherwise will be in for quite a surprise at the Great White Throne Judgment.
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    that is because you assume almighty god is so petty and insecure as to care that you judge him.


    if anything, i expect him to be glad one thinks for himself. i refuse to think he created us to be obedient muppets
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    20 Mar '14 20:36
    So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?
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    20 Mar '14 21:58
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    that is because you assume almighty god is so petty and insecure as to care that you judge him.


    if anything, i expect him to be glad one thinks for himself. i refuse to think he created us to be obedient muppets
    Zahlanzi, what matters is sustaining clear and rational thought. If you say: "that is because you assume almighty god is so petty and insecure as to care that you judge him.


    if anything, i expect him to be glad one thinks for himself. i refuse to think he created us to be obedient muppets"
    you are verging on being arbitrary and foolish. A logical basis might be : On the basis of rationalism or empiricism these statements might be worthy of serious consideration.

    Dogmatically saying: "that is because you assume almighty god is so petty and insecure as to care that you judge him.


    if anything, i expect him to be glad one thinks for himself. i refuse to think he created us to be obedient muppets"
    you demonstrate subjective thinking. At least make a statement that reflects logical thinking. We owe God a hearing.
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    20 Mar '14 22:00
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?


    Criteria you apply?
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    20 Mar '14 22:04
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    [b]So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?


    Criteria you apply?[/b]
    What?!?!?
    How did you discern your god was good?
    Your criteria
  14. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    20 Mar '14 22:10
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    What?!?!?
    How did [b]you
    discern your god was good?
    Your criteria[/b]
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?


    .... any other restrictions?
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    22 Mar '14 21:05
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    [b]So apart from RJHinds quoting from the bible nobody can offer
    me an explanation of how they discerned their god is good?


    .... any other restrictions?[/b]
    other than what?
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